“Retaliation damage scales from condition damage instead of power. "
This trait is too good to even be a grandmaster and I’m amazed that it passed the balance check. With 1565 condition damage I was hitting a guy for 290 in PvP per hit with just retaliation, which I can stack with both a greatsword symbol AND light aura by leaping through it, not to mention extending its duration by 25% and gaining it from TWO shouts and my heal skill, AND all my virtues.
Is this going to get a nerf anytime soon? There’s absolutely no counter to this build because even if retaliation gets stripped I can just reapply it.
Well, retaliation has always been great in group scenarios rather than 1v1 or small skirmish fights. Lets do simple maths.
Whirling Wrath’s 7 AoE hits + 7 single target projectiles in a group of 5 people with Retaliation buff. Retaliation being 290 per hit. The guardian just did an instant 12,180 damage to himself.
(7 * 5 + 7) * 290 = 12,180
I guess they fixed Radiant Retaliation huh?
Edit: Actually I reached 300 retal damage per hit. That technically out damage’s Amplified Wrath, especially in a group scenario. I’m gonna try out some build variants now :P
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I have some bad news, unfortunately the trait “Retribution” which increases your damage while 10% while you have retaliation DOES NOT WORK! It actually increases sword and spear damage by 10%. I hope this can be fixed so that my condition-based retaliation build can be even stronger.
Don’t Worry. Anet has recognized the OP’ed condition meta, bugged traits, etc… Either it’s intended and people can stop complaining (but they wont) or it will be fixed and a more balanced state will exist. Frankly, I think everything has been pushed a little bit too far. I’m killing trash in 1 weapon rotation. Might as well just mail me random loot every day.
I have some bad news, unfortunately the trait “Retribution” which increases your damage while 10% while you have retaliation DOES NOT WORK! It actually increases sword and spear damage by 10%. I hope this can be fixed so that my condition-based retaliation build can be even stronger.
Are you sure it’s not just tooltips ? cause thse sword damage doesnt seem to increase with it on but it does with retaliation
That was going full Condi, with about 16 stacks of Might, with WvW Guard stacks, 25 stacks of Corruption, etc. (armor was exotic, trinkets ascended). Without any might, I had 2612 Condition Damage. So with full Might, it may have done around 475.
Taking a more balanced approach between Retaliation, Burning, and Survivability, you can still achieve Retaliation numbers over 350 while having 100% burn duration and 45% Retal duration.
441… 350… 290… these numbers may not be a huge improvement over your Power retal damage, but if you are running full condi, all of these numbers are an enormous improvement over the 180 you’d be doing if you didn’t take this trait and only had 1000 Power.
That was going full Condi, with about 16 stacks of Might, with WvW Guard stacks, 25 stacks of Corruption, etc. (armor was exotic, trinkets ascended). Without any might, I had 2612 Condition Damage. So with full Might, it may have done around 475.
Taking a more balanced approach between Retaliation, Burning, and Survivability, you can still achieve Retaliation numbers over 350 while having 100% burn duration and 45% boon duration.
441… 350… 290… these numbers may not be a huge improvement over your Power retal damage, but if you are running full condi, all of these numbers are an enormous improvement over the 180 you’d be doing if you didn’t take this trait and only had 1000 Power.
how do you get 100% burn duration and 45% boon duration AFAIK best boon duration food is 20% and condi duration food is 40%
