Hello everyone, i just started the game and looked at some build and i found one that seems pretty fun, its a 0/0/10/30/30 or 5/0/10/30/25 retaliation build with clerc gear ! It feels really ’’guardian’’ for me i dont want any pure dps or zerk build .. I was wondering if this was a viable end game build for both PvE and PvP and if not a similar build that is great and fun to play. People in my guild keep saying its not worth it but i hope it is !
0/0/10/30/30 with Cleric’s armor and a focus on Retaliation uptime has been proven to be at least somewhat effective in WvW and to a lesser extent in sPvP. It isn’t worth it in PvE because you aren’t going to get hit that much (preferably never) by monsters. Zerker is and probably always will be the way to go for PvE.
Chris “Dawnheart” Aerinoh — Revenant, Guardian — Blackgate
Hmm allright thanks for you’re answer ! Doesn’t look that good finally .. but keep in mind im looking for a tank/support build thats not boring to play, you got any idea ?
I don’t know about pve but for spvp many common bunker or support builds have very high retaliation up time. The retaliation on virtue use trait plus shouts like stand your ground and save yourself plus a weapon like GS and vengeful trait means very high uptime on retal.
Yes, it is viable for PvE. The downed state mechanic allows you to keep fighting once you go down even with retaliation, so as long as allies keep rezzing you you can continue to tank hits and dish out retaliation damage.
As an example, I once took my guardian into CoE and tanked all of Alpha’s ice spikes even while we were all stacking. I went down a few times but the retaliation damage I think was worth it.
I don’t think giving up your allies’ DPS for them to revive you should be considered a “pro.” Ideally you’ll simply not die and continue to deal damage so that the boss will die sooner, leaving less room for error. Retaliation hits for significantly less than a few players’ worth of DPS, even in PvE where it isn’t nerfed by 33%.
Chris “Dawnheart” Aerinoh — Revenant, Guardian — Blackgate
Technically, retal hits for virtually nothing, Chris. Don’t forget that most mobs attack with an incredible attack speed of 0.2-0.5 s^-1. But I think that Lamir’s post was a rather good attempt to troll since he stresses the downed stuff.
@Ninja: Neither retal nor such a “supporter” build are viable for PvE. Unless ANet changes all game mechanics, full damage builds will always be superior to anything else in PvE.
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Thanks for your answers everyone it is very appreciated ! Yeah right now in pve its pretty useless i keep dodging attack and don’t reflect that much damage.. i didn’t tried in pvp tho. But it has been pretty fun i like the combo but i dont think thats enough to stay on this build haha.
I’l look at something more DPS for PvE and more support on PvP/WvW ! I’l try your healway build Christos it sounds great !
