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Posted by: Axis Rahl.2584

Axis Rahl.2584

I understand the mechanics of this ability are very useful for escaping enemies safely. However it is also useful for general travel and certain combat advantages.

Keep the skill name, I don’t care, but change what my character says. I explored Divinity’s Reach yesterday and must have yelled “Retreat” 20 times.

In groups this could lead to players think they’re overwhelmed when really I just wanna give everyone aegis for a second. Worst of all it makes my Guardian sound like the biggest coward in Tyria.

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Posted by: Ghaz.9267

Ghaz.9267

Could always use “Stand Your Ground” or “Hold The Line” right afterwards ^^

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Posted by: Ynna.8769

Ynna.8769

Changing the name on “Retreat!” has already been suggested multiple times, because it’s used for so much more than retreating (including leading a charge).
Previous suggestions have been: “Follow me!”, “Make Haste!” or “Move it!”

“Come on, hit me!”

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Posted by: Harbinger.8637

Harbinger.8637

Charge. Nice and simple.

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Posted by: Ynna.8769

Ynna.8769

Oh heaven (because what I actually wanted to say got censored without possibly being offensive to anyone except people who’ll take offense at anything), I forgot that one…

“Come on, hit me!”

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Posted by: Proteus.6320

Proteus.6320

Just rename it “Suddenly kittens, everywhere”

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Posted by: Telegraph.7509

Telegraph.7509

I like to active “Stand your ground!”, “Retreat!”, and “Save yourselves!” in that order. It causes plenty of confusion in the group.

I wish one day, ANET will make a purchasable elite skill that is a shout. It doesn’t really matter what the effect is, but the shout will just activate a random voiced line.

It would be glorious.

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Posted by: Ryltair.2857

Ryltair.2857

I agree with the OP’s statement. I don’t take the skill because it’s called Retreat. The only direction my Guardian is going, is TOWARDS the enemy!

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Posted by: Lumines.3916

Lumines.3916

Is it just my Guardian or does “Hold the Line!” not have a voice attached to it. My asura guardian only yells “Getting Healthy!” when I pop it which seems to be attached to regeneration more than anything.

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Posted by: DaWolv.8503

DaWolv.8503

Changing the name on “Retreat!” has already been suggested multiple times, because it’s used for so much more than retreating (including leading a charge).
Previous suggestions have been: “Follow me!”, “Make Haste!” or “Move it!”

^What he said!

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Posted by: Farzo.8410

Farzo.8410

‘’Advance in a different direction!’’

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Posted by: Chii.2814

Chii.2814

I use it, if Im running away i tell allies to retreat.

If im charging in, im telling the enemies they better retreat or theyre dead.

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Posted by: Tim.9850

Tim.9850

Is there something that affects the duration of the Retreat skill?

I ask because I was almost positive that we were getting 25 seconds for the skill. Yesterday when I looked it was down to 23 seconds, and today when I looked its 20 seconds.

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Posted by: akamon.2769

akamon.2769

“Let’s get jiggy!”

in all seriousness though, haha, i do agree with this and i just feel silly sometimes. i like to pull retreat when doing escort missions (just to speed the NPC up lol) and i yell “Retreat!” so much when nothing’s going on… lol

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Akaigi | Warrior Made of Wood
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Posted by: SuperLuigi.3720

SuperLuigi.3720

Charge. Nice and simple.

Charge is a Warrior skill.

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Posted by: ImariKurumi.5761

ImariKurumi.5761

It doesnt annoy me that much, until some people i partied with commented about the “Retreat” shouting… Now i wish they will change it too, but i rather them fix other urgent/burning issues with the game… This can always wait…

Just a though, since the skill is equal to a “Rally” skill, they can use a shout phrase something like “To me my Brothers!!!”, its from Warhammer 40k DoW, that game has one of the most awesome shouts/voicing. Maybe change it to “To me my Warriors!!!”

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Posted by: Ynna.8769

Ynna.8769

Charge. Nice and simple.

Charge is a Warrior skill.

Not to mention it has the same problem as “Retreat!”. Charge implies charging forward, while the skill can also be used for retreating.

“Come on, hit me!”

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Posted by: Chii.2814

Chii.2814

Retreat is fine, just do what i do.

Imagine youre telling the enemy that they should retreat when you charge towards them

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Posted by: Rainydays.5368

Rainydays.5368

Simply “Go, Go, Go!” would be wonderful rather than a desperation call. Because, that is what retreat means. it means you have lost all hope in securing this area so you must fall back and regroup or flee for safety.

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Posted by: Shadow.3475

Shadow.3475

I think its fun to shout Retreat when you chase someone

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Posted by: Farzo.8410

Farzo.8410

I think its fun to shout Retreat when you chase someone

You obviously tell the one you chase to retreat!

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Posted by: Naru.4521

Naru.4521

So stupid to care about skill name, i dont care about its name or what it shouts, i just care about its effect and visuals (for other skills)

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Posted by: Khenzy.9348

Khenzy.9348

Just call it “Move it!” as someone else said.

Offtopic:
Also, reduce the CD to 30 seconds and decrease the swiftness duration to 10.
60 seconds or 48 just feels too long of a CD, you can achieve 50% uptime with +20% boon duration and -20% recharge, you could achive the same uptime with 30 seconds CD (24) and 10 seconds duration (12), but being able to use it twice as often.

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Posted by: Sparkie.3465

Sparkie.3465

“Fly, you fools!” – I have to put in a vote for a Lord of the Rings reference.

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Posted by: Svarty.8019

Svarty.8019

Previous suggestions have been: “Follow me!”, “Make Haste!” or “Move it!”

I like (to) “Move It!” (move it).

Nobody at Anet loves WvW like Grouch loved PvP. That’s what we need, a WvW Grouch, but taller.

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Posted by: Chii.2814

Chii.2814

I think its fun to shout Retreat when you chase someone

You obviously tell the one you chase to retreat!

This is what i have been saying all along.

There is zero problem with the name Retreat. People are just not being imaginative enough.

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Posted by: Ynna.8769

Ynna.8769

“So stupid to care about skill name, I don’t care about its name or what it shouts, I just care about its effect and visuals (for other skills).
You care about visuals, but not about the name or the auditory component? That’s odd, since they are all flavor-related.
And it’s not stupid to care about it. It’s not a major issue, but it’s a bit jarring to start an advance with: “Retreat!”. Not to mention that some people in WvWvW seem to take it as an actual order.

“Come on, hit me!”

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Posted by: Tim.9850

Tim.9850

In the past someone mentioned that the other person doesn’t hear your character say “retreat”, it says something else to them. But I don’t know if that is true or not.

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Posted by: Alent.4780

Alent.4780

I always used “Incoming!” with my ’gon back in the day.

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Posted by: Kal.2376

Kal.2376

Is there something that affects the duration of the Retreat skill?

I ask because I was almost positive that we were getting 25 seconds for the skill. Yesterday when I looked it was down to 23 seconds, and today when I looked its 20 seconds.

Each trait point invested in virtues will increase boon duration by 1%. So going all “virtuous” will make the swiftness last quite a bit longer (30% more fun!).

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Posted by: Daedalus.3954

Daedalus.3954

For Virtue! Would be better; to be honest though, anything that doesn’t have such pronounced negativity.

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Posted by: Aramanth.1546

Aramanth.1546

Charge. Nice and simple.

That about sums it up. Or you could just have us yell different things. I try to imagine my Norn’s telling the other guys to retreat. It sorta helps….

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Posted by: Dookies.2718

Dookies.2718

“Fly, you fools!” – I have to put in a vote for a Lord of the Rings reference.

I love you. And i second this!

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Posted by: Tesq.1432

Tesq.1432

lol no i love it "retreat"+ “save your self”

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Posted by: Nicholai.5169

Nicholai.5169

Needs changing.

The last thing I need, as a commander, is a skill that tells my followers to run away.




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Posted by: Yraen.9801

Yraen.9801

“Don’t Just Stand There!”
“Look Lively!”
“Dance, You Monkeys! Dance!”

Or… “Run Away!” with an exact clip from Holy Grail :P