S/d thief vs Guard 1v1 in wvw

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Posted by: BlaqueFyre.5678

BlaqueFyre.5678

Q:

So getting back into my thief for wvw. I am running a S/d roaming build, very minimal to no stealth besides heals. How would I go about competing with the Guardians best Wvw 1v1 build?

Looking here because you guys know the guardian mechanics far better than I do.

My build is 0/30/10/30/0
Full zerker armor and trinks

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Posted by: AgentChaos.4932

AgentChaos.4932

when you are low just use your 1000000 evades and run around until you heal up. guard has no way of catching you

Roleplayer.

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Posted by: urieldhynne.2743

urieldhynne.2743

“Tanky/good defensive” profession/builds can absorb/avoid your burst. You cant absorb the constant damage, you are too squishy. If you keep fighting you will die through retaliation or direct damage, because guardian have better sustainability and keep damaging all the fight.

I am a kind of person who think glasscanon dont work in pvp, in any game, is like throw a coin and see which glasscanon die first, kill or die, until you meet a smart tanky dps.

In pvp, you should build defensive as equal to offensive, never full offensive.

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Posted by: BlaqueFyre.5678

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The build that I go with on S/d is defensive, it allows for most mobility I can muster, through weapon skills and utility, while the gear gives me my raw stats for dps.

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Posted by: K U T M.4539

K U T M.4539

Poison, and some more poison.

Basic [BS] NSP/Mag

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Posted by: urieldhynne.2743

urieldhynne.2743

The build that I go with on S/d is defensive, it allows for most mobility I can muster, through weapon skills and utility, while the gear gives me my raw stats for dps.

Try to keep an eye on retaliation. You are running full berserker gear. If you spam attacks you will die vs a tank dont matter how much mobility or stealth you have.

The problem is that decent guards have almost 100% uptime retaliation. You need to steal it, try sword/dagger. And yes, like K U T M said, poison, for slow down the regeneration. You need a lot of them and play it smart, good guards have great condition removal.

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Posted by: Sannhet.8745

Sannhet.8745

when you are low just use your 1000000 evades and run around until you heal up. guard has no way of catching you

^ This. Especially if your build revolves around mobility as you’ve stated. You should never lose a 1v1 to a guard unless you go full kitten and fight to the death. You can reset the fight as many times as you need to.

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Posted by: AgentChaos.4932

AgentChaos.4932

here you can watch a fight i had with a s/d thief, i made a bad call at the end should have used renew focus instead of using whirling wrath but it wouldnt matter anyway since his evade heal and shadow steps were just too much mobility
http://www.twitch.tv/averageasiandude/b/465366646?t=71m35s

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Posted by: Svarty.8019

Svarty.8019

“Tanky/good defensive” profession/builds can absorb/avoid your burst. You cant absorb the constant damage, you are too squishy. If you keep fighting you will die through retaliation or direct damage, because guardian have better sustainability and keep damaging all the fight.

That’s the theory, but in practice, your damage will cream any guardian before retaliation can get you to 60%. It’s massively borked in your favour, enjoy it before the 16/10/13 nerf.

Nobody at Anet loves WvW like Grouch loved PvP. That’s what we need, a WvW Grouch, but taller.

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Posted by: Sylpheed.8163

Sylpheed.8163

“Tanky/good defensive” profession/builds can absorb/avoid your burst. You cant absorb the constant damage, you are too squishy. If you keep fighting you will die through retaliation or direct damage, because guardian have better sustainability and keep damaging all the fight.

That’s the theory, but in practice, your damage will cream any guardian before retaliation can get you to 60%. It’s massively borked in your favour, enjoy it before the 16/10/13 nerf.

Sigh, why do people advertise on twitch that they’re rank 620 when they’re so bad at wvw. I dunno why people do this. RIP in peace.

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Posted by: clint.5681

clint.5681

Yo i just tried a new build out on my thief. Got some condition gear and started just using P/D and D/D(no stealth besides SR and heal) and i must say that our conditions can melt through Guards and wars easily. Its may be a bit weird getting used to not spamming stealth but its a fun alternative.

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