SYG: hasnt anyone tested this post patch?

SYG: hasnt anyone tested this post patch?

in Guardian

Posted by: mulzi.8273

mulzi.8273

I’ve been in a few matches after the patch, an i’ve been immediately feared (necro), knocked back (ranger) and stunned (hambow) in different encounters. I baited the necro’s CB off first, so i know it wasnt that. Maybe it was bad luck, but I couldnt stand on point at all and even going for a SYG stomp i was getting cc’d into oblivion. Just wondering what others were experiencing after the patch..

SYG: hasnt anyone tested this post patch?

in Guardian

Posted by: KevinB.9643

KevinB.9643

Well the problem with stability, is that we got stacks. So we dont have a “solid” stability anymore. You could compare it with defiance stacks I guess.

SYG: hasnt anyone tested this post patch?

in Guardian

Posted by: Saiyan.1704

Saiyan.1704

Yea SYG is about as good as “Retreat” in terms of utility now… a single dose of Stability simply sucks against any type of hard CC team. Necro’s and Engi’s are even more powerful

aka FalseLights
Rank: Top 250 since Season 2
#5 best gerdien in wurld

SYG: hasnt anyone tested this post patch?

in Guardian

Posted by: Yamsandjams.3267

Yamsandjams.3267

Yea SYG is about as good as “Retreat” in terms of utility now… a single dose of Stability simply sucks against any type of hard CC team. Necro’s and Engi’s are even more powerful

Although if they blow all their CCs knocking down your stacks, they won’t have them for when the stacks are gone. In small scale fights (i.e. sPvP), it still seems to be much better to either strip the stability or wait for it to go away. Even an engineer has limited CC, it doesn’t make sense to dump 5 of them to strip off SYG, especially since the time required to do that would likely take as long or longer than the duration of the stability in the first place.

Aside from the skills that got pulsing stability, it seems to me the stability stacks really only affect WvW. I guess the things that got stuck at a single stack might be worse off in sPvP, but those are generally short duration stabilities anyways.

SYG: hasnt anyone tested this post patch?

in Guardian

Posted by: CMF.5461

CMF.5461

Do the 5 stacks of stability count as multiple boon applications? Altruistic healing with 5 allies and 5 applications of stability with maybe 70 healing per boon.

25 * 70 = 1750 healing per syg shout. Nice little burst heal for AH guards in wvw at least.

SYG: hasnt anyone tested this post patch?

in Guardian

Posted by: Saiyan.1704

Saiyan.1704

Do the 5 stacks of stability count as multiple boon applications? Altruistic healing with 5 allies and 5 applications of stability with maybe 70 healing per boon.

25 * 70 = 1750 healing per syg shout. Nice little burst heal for AH guards in wvw at least.

It’ll be just like how Might works I’m sure :P so yes!

aka FalseLights
Rank: Top 250 since Season 2
#5 best gerdien in wurld

SYG: hasnt anyone tested this post patch?

in Guardian

Posted by: Tarsius.3170

Tarsius.3170

Do the 5 stacks of stability count as multiple boon applications? Altruistic healing with 5 allies and 5 applications of stability with maybe 70 healing per boon.

25 * 70 = 1750 healing per syg shout. Nice little burst heal for AH guards in wvw at least.

Don’t forget retaliation is granted too:

30 * 70 = 2100

Warhaft Tarsius – Asura Guardian ( Desolation ) – [NUKE]
Guardian FAQ · BUGS · HEALING

SYG: hasnt anyone tested this post patch?

in Guardian

Posted by: xDudisx.5914

xDudisx.5914

I’ve been in a few matches after the patch, an i’ve been immediately feared (necro), knocked back (ranger) and stunned (hambow) in different encounters. I baited the necro’s CB off first, so i know it wasnt that. Maybe it was bad luck, but I couldnt stand on point at all and even going for a SYG stomp i was getting cc’d into oblivion. Just wondering what others were experiencing after the patch..

If the war is the clasic hambow he has: 1 knockdown, 1 aoe knockback and 1 aoe stun. Not enough to remove the 5 stacks of stability from SYG.

Necros can corrupt boons into conditions. So does not matter if you have 1 or 25 stacks. If he lands corrup boon it will convert stab into fear.

Ouroboro Knight’s [OK]

SYG: hasnt anyone tested this post patch?

in Guardian

Posted by: Ezrael.6859

Ezrael.6859

Do the 5 stacks of stability count as multiple boon applications? Altruistic healing with 5 allies and 5 applications of stability with maybe 70 healing per boon.

25 * 70 = 1750 healing per syg shout. Nice little burst heal for AH guards in wvw at least.

2100 total. 5x Retaliation and 25x Stability

Attachments:

SYG: hasnt anyone tested this post patch?

in Guardian

Posted by: CMF.5461

CMF.5461

Oh yeah, retal on it too, good call Tarsius. Nice pic example Ezrael Nothing to go home and brag about but it is a nice little side buff if anything.

SYG: hasnt anyone tested this post patch?

in Guardian

Posted by: Siva Mira.3546

Siva Mira.3546

Imagine the guy asking for 25 stack of stability out of SYG >__<

All is vain.

SYG: hasnt anyone tested this post patch?

in Guardian

Posted by: CMF.5461

CMF.5461

omg…

that would be what a 9,100 heal? (edited, I mathed wrong)

I changed my mind, give us 25 stacks of stability! :p

SYG: hasnt anyone tested this post patch?

in Guardian

Posted by: Saiyan.1704

Saiyan.1704

Nice find guys! So we’ll probably be seeing a lot more Altruistic Guardians traiting for Indomidable Courage and SYG Guardians. It’ll be interesting seeing the builds

EDITED
I also want to add, if you trait Master of Concecrations Hollowed Ground will yield 4680 healing if it affects 5 people in its full duration. I wish Concecrations got a radius buff

aka FalseLights
Rank: Top 250 since Season 2
#5 best gerdien in wurld

(edited by Saiyan.1704)

SYG: hasnt anyone tested this post patch?

in Guardian

Posted by: Tarsius.3170

Tarsius.3170

I also want to add, if you trait Master of Concecrations Hollowed Ground will yield 4680 healing if it affects 5 people in its full duration. I wish Concecrations got a radius buff

Is it not still 4485 same as before the patch? ( 69 * 5 ) * ( 13 ticks )

Warhaft Tarsius – Asura Guardian ( Desolation ) – [NUKE]
Guardian FAQ · BUGS · HEALING

(edited by Tarsius.3170)

SYG: hasnt anyone tested this post patch?

in Guardian

Posted by: Saiyan.1704

Saiyan.1704

I also want to add, if you trait Master of Concecrations Hollowed Ground will yield 4680 healing if it affects 5 people in its full duration. I wish Concecrations got a radius buff

Is it not still 4485 same as before the patch? ( 69 * 5 ) * ( 13 ticks )

Oh right >.<

aka FalseLights
Rank: Top 250 since Season 2
#5 best gerdien in wurld

SYG: hasnt anyone tested this post patch?

in Guardian

Posted by: Tarsius.3170

Tarsius.3170

I’ve updated my healing spreadsheet with the new stability changes

( And fixed some missing cooldown changes from previous patches )

link in the sig

Warhaft Tarsius – Asura Guardian ( Desolation ) – [NUKE]
Guardian FAQ · BUGS · HEALING

SYG: hasnt anyone tested this post patch?

in Guardian

Posted by: ZoroDaOtter.3859

ZoroDaOtter.3859

Does Sanctuary now constantly remove stacks if enemies stand in it?

SYG: hasnt anyone tested this post patch?

in Guardian

Posted by: xDudisx.5914

xDudisx.5914

Does Sanctuary now constantly remove stacks if enemies stand in it?

Haven’t tested it yet, but I think it only removes stab when you cross the bubble.

Ouroboro Knight’s [OK]

SYG: hasnt anyone tested this post patch?

in Guardian

Posted by: TooBz.3065

TooBz.3065

Does anyone know if SYG acts as a stun break for everyone who gets stability, or just the Guardian?

Anything I post is just the opinion of a very vocal minority of 1.

SYG: hasnt anyone tested this post patch?

in Guardian

Posted by: CMF.5461

CMF.5461

Up to 5 targets within 600 range…feet…meters….“distance” in addition to adding stability.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/%22Stand_Your_Ground%22

SYG: hasnt anyone tested this post patch?

in Guardian

Posted by: Frax.4562

Frax.4562

Does anyone know if SYG acts as a stun break for everyone who gets stability, or just the Guardian?

It is only a stun break for yourself. If you want to get a skill with stab that is a stun break for your allies you have to go deep into the virtues trait line and grab shielded mind for virtue of courage

SYG: hasnt anyone tested this post patch?

in Guardian

Posted by: Black Box.9312

Black Box.9312

Does anyone know if SYG acts as a stun break for everyone who gets stability, or just the Guardian?

It is only a stun break for yourself. If you want to get a skill with stab that is a stun break for your allies you have to go deep into the virtues trait line and grab shielded mind for virtue of courage

Stability with VoC and allied stun break with VoC are actually two different traits, sadly.

SYG: hasnt anyone tested this post patch?

in Guardian

Posted by: Frax.4562

Frax.4562

Does anyone know if SYG acts as a stun break for everyone who gets stability, or just the Guardian?

It is only a stun break for yourself. If you want to get a skill with stab that is a stun break for your allies you have to go deep into the virtues trait line and grab shielded mind for virtue of courage

Stability with VoC and allied stun break with VoC are actually two different traits, sadly.

yep and it’s not really worth going 6 in virtues just for that