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Posted by: Dico.4815

Dico.4815

Do you really think that save yourselves is useful now guys ? As ArenaNet made alot of things to break boons I think they should make a improve in this skill. My suggestion is to share the boons with 5 allies, what do you think ?

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Posted by: Teamkiller.4315

Teamkiller.4315

That would make it so hilariously overpowered it’s not even funny.

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Posted by: Kharel Arhew.1437

Kharel Arhew.1437

It’s already incredibly strong in PvE, with the potential for massive uptime on every boon except stability. Not so much in sPvP with the changes there, but there you go.

As it stands, sharing the boons with 5 allies would just be broken, and would make it a required skill on every Guardian’s bar. It’s already a skill you have to think long and hard about discarding…

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Posted by: Dico.4815

Dico.4815

That would make it so hilariously overpowered it’s not even funny.

Why ? Actually there are alot of ways to break boons:
Remove
Convert in conditions
Steal
Do more damage if the enemy have.

I think it would be a good idea in PvP and WvW. And not OP in pve.

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Posted by: Dico.4815

Dico.4815

It’s already incredibly strong in PvE, with the potential for massive uptime on every boon except stability. Not so much in sPvP with the changes there, but there you go.

As it stands, sharing the boons with 5 allies would just be broken, and would make it a required skill on every Guardian’s bar. It’s already a skill you have to think long and hard about discarding…

Swiftness and one stack of might are hideous. Why not sharing the boons ? We are supposed to be the boon guy and support the theam.

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Posted by: Kharel Arhew.1437

Kharel Arhew.1437

One stack of might, not wonderful on its own, but it’s 35 power and condi damage, so I’m not going to complain about its inclusion. The swiftness is great; it allows you to maintain permanent swiftness when coupled with Retreat and some traits/boon duration. Fury rocks. Protection is incredibly strong. Regen is a significant amount of healing, on top of our already-powerful passive healing, and coupled with our increased durability from protection (and our natural durability). Retaliation… well, this is another source of it, and for a very significant duration, that we can chain together with our innumerable other sources of it to maintain permanent retaliation. Vigor is incredibly good, and in combination with another trait, allows us to put out a consistent stream of high healing via a heal on dodge trait with very powerful scaling.

On top of all of that, it also removes conditions from allies, triggers Pure of Voice, and breaks stuns. This skill is, quite literally, the embodiment of what Guardians do, rolled up and packaged into one utility skill that has a reasonable cooldown of 48 seconds.

If you really want to be “the boon guy”, and act as a simple boonbot, perhaps look at the other three shouts, the staff, and something like mace/shield for a melee set.

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Posted by: Lonewolf Kai.3682

Lonewolf Kai.3682

Sharing that many boons to 5 allies would be extremely overpowered!

But, you do make a good point about boons (the proposed arsenal of the Guardian, according to Anet) being abled to be countered by so many other tools to other classes.

A better idea to me would be to increase the potency of Guardian boons to themselves only. Maybe something like a 1% increase across the board for all boons, or perhaps a trait that improves boons similarly. Perhaps an increase per point spent in the Virtues line along with Virtue recharge rate and boon duration. Again, this would affect the Guardian only.

“Be like water” – Bruce Lee

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Posted by: Vennyhedgie.5369

Vennyhedgie.5369

Sharing that many boons to 5 allies would be extremely overpowered!

But, you do make a good point about boons (the proposed arsenal of the Guardian, according to Anet) being abled to be countered by so many other tools to other classes.

A better idea to me would be to increase the potency of Guardian boons to themselves only. Maybe something like a 1% increase across the board for all boons, or perhaps a trait that improves boons similarly. Perhaps an increase per point spent in the Virtues line along with Virtue recharge rate and boon duration. Again, this would affect the Guardian only.

They already have a trait to increase damage based on how many boons they have. But having like a gandmaster trait to share all your boons would be pretty awesome

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Posted by: Kami.7369

Kami.7369

Save Yourselves! is intended as a defensive spell. It has the potential to kill the user, that’s why they gain so many boons when using it. Of course it’s going to be a bit weaker when used offensively.

Jonlo Vangalen
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Posted by: Lonewolf Kai.3682

Lonewolf Kai.3682

They already have a trait to increase damage based on how many boons they have. But having like a gandmaster trait to share all your boons would be pretty awesome

Not all boons are offensive oriented. Also, Power of the Virtuous has nothing to do with increasing the potency of boons, just your dps. Also, that trait isn’t that great to begin with. It isn’t worth specing into 25 Virtues just for that.

Awesome or not, sharing that many is still overpowered.

@Kami

Save Yourselves! is intended as a defensive spell.

And you’re getting this info from….?

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Posted by: darkchicken.8692

darkchicken.8692

They already have a trait to increase damage based on how many boons they have. But having like a gandmaster trait to share all your boons would be pretty awesome

Not all boons are offensive oriented. Also, Power of the Virtuous has nothing to do with increasing the potency of boons, just your dps. Also, that trait isn’t that great to begin with. It isn’t worth specing into 25 Virtues just for that.

Awesome or not, sharing that many is still overpowered.

@Kami

Save Yourselves! is intended as a defensive spell.

And you’re getting this info from….?

Probably because you usually use it to defend yourself more then to put pressure on someone. Since it give fury , might , retaliation you could see it as an offensive but the fact that it break stun, you usually wait for the “best moment” to use it. Like when your allies gonna die from conditions, when you are knock down and youll take a beating if you dont get upt , when your life is getting low etc.

I rarely use it when im full just to get more offensive power.

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Posted by: gnotshr.9136

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@Kami

Save Yourselves! is intended as a defensive spell.

And you’re getting this info from….?

IMO, the name “Save Yourself” sounds defensive.

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Posted by: Kami.7369

Kami.7369

They already have a trait to increase damage based on how many boons they have. But having like a gandmaster trait to share all your boons would be pretty awesome

Not all boons are offensive oriented. Also, Power of the Virtuous has nothing to do with increasing the potency of boons, just your dps. Also, that trait isn’t that great to begin with. It isn’t worth specing into 25 Virtues just for that.

Awesome or not, sharing that many is still overpowered.

@Kami

Save Yourselves! is intended as a defensive spell.

And you’re getting this info from….?

The name, and the fact that it’s a stun breaker, as well as it pulls conditions from allies to you and that all of our Shouts as Guardians are defensive. The idea seems to be that the boons you get offset the conditions from allies, rather than making you into an offensive powerhouse.

It seems that the style of the spell is to give you the last ditch strength to hold off enemies to protect your allies and let them escape.

Jonlo Vangalen
Getof Fenris – Blackgate
http://getoffenris.com/