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Posted by: Divinity.8041

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Two main builds in tPVP

10/30/30 standard bunker tpvp build

I am currently using 5/30/30/5 azshene build right now.

I am wondering, what is the difference? I thought I was a bunker using Azs’s build, but I think maybe that is more a mid team fight build (AH)?

Can you guys set me straight? I want to know what each build is, from my understanding is as follows

1) 10/30/30 is a node defender build
2) 5/30/30/5 is a team fight mid help support build with AH

Am I right?

*I have been playing build #2 as a node defender and been doing fine with it, but feel like I am playing it wrong…

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Posted by: tanshiniza.8629

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Two main builds in tPVP

10/30/30 standard bunker tpvp build

I am currently using 5/30/30/5 azshene build right now.

I am wondering, what is the difference? I thought I was a bunker using Azs’s build, but I think maybe that is more a mid team fight build (AH)?

Can you guys set me straight? I want to know what each build is, from my understanding is as follows

1) 10/30/30 is a node defender build
2) 5/30/30/5 is a team fight mid help support build with AH

Am I right?

*I have been playing build #2 as a node defender and been doing fine with it, but feel like I am playing it wrong…

Both do the same thing really However the Healaway Guard option 1 Would offer a larger amount of support for the team and the 2nd option offers relatively good support while keeping yourself up a little longer due to the blocks and AH. You’re not playing it wrong but I do promote finding your own play style so if you feel like something isn’t right try something different.

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Posted by: Divinity.8041

Divinity.8041

Two main builds in tPVP

10/30/30 standard bunker tpvp build

I am currently using 5/30/30/5 azshene build right now.

I am wondering, what is the difference? I thought I was a bunker using Azs’s build, but I think maybe that is more a mid team fight build (AH)?

Can you guys set me straight? I want to know what each build is, from my understanding is as follows

1) 10/30/30 is a node defender build
2) 5/30/30/5 is a team fight mid help support build with AH

Am I right?

*I have been playing build #2 as a node defender and been doing fine with it, but feel like I am playing it wrong…

Both do the same thing really However the Healaway Guard option 1 Would offer a larger amount of support for the team and the 2nd option offers relatively good support while keeping yourself up a little longer due to the blocks and AH. You’re not playing it wrong but I do promote finding your own play style so if you feel like something isn’t right try something different.

Thank you for the response!

I am so new to this class, but love it. Sensotix got me on it!

But what are the main differences, is one a complete node bunker, while the other is more MID based, due to AH?

I kind of like straight up just getting on a node and keeping it.

I have been using the 5/30/30/5 build for that, but thinking I am using it wrong…and should be in mid supporting teammates.

I just don’t know if I am playing the builds right, I think there are huge differences in the builds, one being a better a bunker than the other.

10/30/30 seems like a more selfish node bunker defense build, while the AH build seems like more a team support build no?

I am so new…bash me if I am being silly!

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Posted by: tanshiniza.8629

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Both are viable for Node defence however the Bunker/Heal away is superior since it has longer boon duration and the other build is better in groups as you get the greatest healing from AH in group scenarios.

When everything is said and done I think you should use the Bunker/Heal Away for what you want to do since I think it matches what you want to do better and also the other build is something that is used in high level competitive team PvP so is more specific to the play style that the team adopts.

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Both are viable for Node defence however the Bunker/Heal away is superior since it has longer boon duration and the other build is better in groups as you get the greatest healing from AH in group scenarios.

When everything is said and done I think you should use the Bunker/Heal Away for what you want to do since I think it matches what you want to do better and also the other build is something that is used in high level competitive team PvP so is more specific to the play style that the team adopts.

What a great answer!! I was thinking that too…

do you think the bunker/heal is good for soloq being in mid or even at a node?

I want a all around build for anything guardian hehe. maybe 10/30/30 is the way to go?

I have been rocking the staff/ mace/focus azs build with AH, and been doing great on nodes, but feel like it is more of a mid spec than a node spec hehe

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Both are viable for Node defence however the Bunker/Heal away is superior since it has longer boon duration and the other build is better in groups as you get the greatest healing from AH in group scenarios.

When everything is said and done I think you should use the Bunker/Heal Away for what you want to do since I think it matches what you want to do better and also the other build is something that is used in high level competitive team PvP so is more specific to the play style that the team adopts.

What a great answer!! I was thinking that too…

do you think the bunker/heal is good for soloq being in mid or even at a node?

I want a all around build for anything guardian hehe. maybe 10/30/30 is the way to go?

I have been rocking the staff/ mace/focus azs build with AH, and been doing great on nodes, but feel like it is more of a mid spec than a node spec hehe

The Bunker is a Bunker and Bunkers on a point and offers support for allies so it’s a good node defender and invaluable at Mid since it can offer so much healing/support for it’s allies. The AH is indeed more of a mid spec since it gets the largest amount of healing in a group environment.

Soloing in these specs isn’t advisable since that isn’t what they were made for and it is actually near impossible to kill a good player with a bunker guardian cause you simply can’t hit him for enough and he will just back off from you if he feels threatened at all.

For solo run a zerker guardian however this takes some practice because you won’t be used to being so squishy and you have to rely a lot on well timed blinds/dodges etc but once mastered there isn’t much you can’t drop in a 1vs1. Not blowing my own horn and saying I’m an awesome Guardian but I can absolutely wreck a Bunker guard using my Zerker.

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Both are viable for Node defence however the Bunker/Heal away is superior since it has longer boon duration and the other build is better in groups as you get the greatest healing from AH in group scenarios.

When everything is said and done I think you should use the Bunker/Heal Away for what you want to do since I think it matches what you want to do better and also the other build is something that is used in high level competitive team PvP so is more specific to the play style that the team adopts.

What a great answer!! I was thinking that too…

do you think the bunker/heal is good for soloq being in mid or even at a node?

I want a all around build for anything guardian hehe. maybe 10/30/30 is the way to go?

I have been rocking the staff/ mace/focus azs build with AH, and been doing great on nodes, but feel like it is more of a mid spec than a node spec hehe

The Bunker is a Bunker and Bunkers on a point and offers support for allies so it’s a good node defender and invaluable at Mid since it can offer so much healing/support for it’s allies. The AH is indeed more of a mid spec since it gets the largest amount of healing in a group environment.

Soloing in these specs isn’t advisable since that isn’t what they were made for and it is actually near impossible to kill a good player with a bunker guardian cause you simply can’t hit him for enough and he will just back off from you if he feels threatened at all.

For solo run a zerker guardian however this takes some practice because you won’t be used to being so squishy and you have to rely a lot on well timed blinds/dodges etc but once mastered there isn’t much you can’t drop in a 1vs1. Not blowing my own horn and saying I’m an awesome Guardian but I can absolutely wreck a Bunker guard using my Zerker.

well what I usually do is just sit on a node until someone comes, then I call for help and we kill him, then the other player leaves me until i call for help again.

are you saying go all divinity runes, beserker amulet triple med dps?

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Posted by: tanshiniza.8629

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I prefer using runes of the Eagle over Divnity for the extra critical chance and the +5% damage after 50% health but it’s a yes to the rest of it.

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I prefer using runes of the Eagle over Divnity for the extra critical chance and the +5% damage after 50% health but it’s a yes to the rest of it.

weapon choice?

I was thinking GS and scepter/shield or focus

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Weapons are down to personal preference but at the moment I’m using Greatsword and Hammer simply because I like locking down the more mobile classes.

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Love when randoms hate on fellow guardians in other threads and then ask for advice from them as if they are the same.

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Wait… so you come onto the forums in the previous post telling everyone who posts they aren’t as good as X and they’ll never be, then roll a guardian and ask everyone you just spit on if they can help you?

Stay Thirsty My Friend.

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Wait… so you come onto the forums in the previous post telling everyone who posts they aren’t as good as X and they’ll never be, then roll a guardian and ask everyone you just spit on if they can help you?

Stay Thirsty My Friend.

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Amins.3710

Wait… so you come onto the forums in the previous post telling everyone who posts they aren’t as good as X and they’ll never be, then roll a guardian and ask everyone you just spit on if they can help you?

Stay Thirsty My Friend.

“I don’t always eat crow my friend, but when I do I throw crap in your face.”

lawl: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U18VkI0uDxE

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Wait… so you come onto the forums in the previous post telling everyone who posts they aren’t as good as X and they’ll never be, then roll a guardian and ask everyone you just spit on if they can help you?

Stay Thirsty My Friend.

Hello random, if you are referring to when I stood up for all the nerds that came out to hate on azshene saying he is not one of the best guardians in the game right now (which he undoubtedly is, and you are not) then yes that is me.

I love when nerds who are bad at the game poo on players on teams they will never even dream to be on.

Why did you just make yourself look bad friend?

Because you just indirectly said you are better than team curse, so who are you again? I am new to guardian community, what is your tag? I am sure you are a famous guardian.

Love when randoms hate on fellow guardians in other threads and then ask for advice from them as if they are the same.

I love when randoms hate on randoms. Maybe you are talking about how I stood up for azshene? (senso’s thread about interviewing the best ingame guardian, just to have randoms like kai say he is not the best etc.) I have no clue what you are talking about, but what I do know is that you are a random, and do not deserve any more key strokes.

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Amins.3710

Wait… so you come onto the forums in the previous post telling everyone who posts they aren’t as good as X and they’ll never be, then roll a guardian and ask everyone you just spit on if they can help you?

Stay Thirsty My Friend.

Hello random, if you are referring to when I stood up for all the nerds that came out to hate on azshene saying he is not one of the best guardians in the game right now (which he undoubtedly is, and you are not) then yes that is me.

I love when nerds who are bad at the game poo on players on teams they will never even dream to be on.

Why did you just make yourself look bad friend?

Because you just indirectly said you are better than team curse, so who are you again? I am new to guardian community, what is your tag? I am sure you are a famous guardian.

Your logic and depth of character are astonishing.

Do your homework son.

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Divinity.8041

Wait… so you come onto the forums in the previous post telling everyone who posts they aren’t as good as X and they’ll never be, then roll a guardian and ask everyone you just spit on if they can help you?

Stay Thirsty My Friend.

Hello random, if you are referring to when I stood up for all the nerds that came out to hate on azshene saying he is not one of the best guardians in the game right now (which he undoubtedly is, and you are not) then yes that is me.

I love when nerds who are bad at the game poo on players on teams they will never even dream to be on.

Why did you just make yourself look bad friend?

Because you just indirectly said you are better than team curse, so who are you again? I am new to guardian community, what is your tag? I am sure you are a famous guardian.

Your logic and depth of character are astonishing.

Do your homework son.

That is what I thought.

For the people who are wondering what he is referring to, here it is! The below is in reference to random people like amin himself, and others hating on Sensotix’s thread named “interview with best ingame guardian azshene”

Everyone was giving Senso crap about how he is not the best guardian, or even top guardian etc. Meanwhile they are all random as hell and do not have the right to even talk about him. Yes I spit on people who are bad hating on players who have actually proven themselves to be good.

Guys you need to chill, azs is on a team 99.9% of you will never be on, so please show some respect.

So I assume everyone who hated on the term best must be from team CC or something, because those are the ONLY people who can poo on him right now.

Love when randoms hate on star players like they are even in the same universe.

*How does my logic astound you? By standing up for a good player when you are a nobody? Yeah my logic holds true, I have no clue what you are talking about, but what team are you on again? I think you forgot to tell everyone, please tell mate.

*edit x2

just noticed wvw videos in sig…will stop responding to him now lmao, no need to respond bro

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Posted by: tanshiniza.8629

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Wait… so you come onto the forums in the previous post telling everyone who posts they aren’t as good as X and they’ll never be, then roll a guardian and ask everyone you just spit on if they can help you?

Stay Thirsty My Friend.

Hello random, if you are referring to when I stood up for all the nerds that came out to hate on azshene saying he is not one of the best guardians in the game right now (which he undoubtedly is, and you are not) then yes that is me.

I love when nerds who are bad at the game poo on players on teams they will never even dream to be on.

Why did you just make yourself look bad friend?

Because you just indirectly said you are better than team curse, so who are you again? I am new to guardian community, what is your tag? I am sure you are a famous guardian.

Your logic and depth of character are astonishing.

Do your homework son.

A guy came to ask for help on Guardians and he received it what he said or insinuated on other Posts or Forums has nothing to do with this Post here and now. I’m not defending anyone and I genuinely couldn’t care less for either side of the argument my issue is that there is a dual of the keyboards spreading around posts which believe it or not is pretty darn pointless.

I suggest just chilling out and doing something like gardening or tickling the chins of cute bunny rabbits.

Welcome to the Internet.

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Posted by: Amins.3710

Amins.3710

Oh, this is going to be fun….

Yep, I’m a nobody: http://www.gw2gvg.com/leaderboard/na

Yep, I don’t contribute to the Guardian Boards at all: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/guardian/New-8-1-Video-Included-WvW-PvE-Builds/page/3#post2549905

Yep, I don’t show ~any~ skill at all: http://www.youtube.com/user/JDHarris66

Like I said… do your homework son.

The people you’re bashing (and I’m not saying just myself, as I’m definately not “one of the best”) have been here since beta and contribute vasts amount of time and energy to help make the boards, our boards, what they are today.

Get a clue.

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Oh, this is going to be fun….

Yep, I’m a nobody: http://www.gw2gvg.com/leaderboard/na

Yep, I don’t contribute to the Guardian Boards at all: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/guardian/New-8-1-Video-Included-WvW-PvE-Builds/page/3#post2549905

Yep, I don’t show ~any~ skill at all: http://www.youtube.com/user/JDHarris66

Like I said… do your homework son.

The people you’re bashing (and I’m not saying just myself, as I’m definately not “one of the best”) have been here since beta and contribute vasts amount of time and energy to help make the boards, our boards, what they are today.

Get a clue.

You must be on Team CC then, my bad. I don’t take advice from wvw/pve bads. Clearly you are the best because you are trying to flaunt kitten by youtube videos baddies make, and showing a pointless leaderboard in a ranking system that is currently broken? I never said you didn’t contribute to the forums, you are again creating topics out of nowhere, gg though. TY for all the advice everyone! This is getting pointless as randoms are trying to act hard.

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Posted by: tanshiniza.8629

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Honestly just call it a day and stop bashing each other. Armin is a capable Guardian and knows a fair amount regarding the class and Divinity I hope you’ll enjoy your time playing this class and that the advice I gave is useful. salute I’m off to go kill something squishy.

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Posted by: Lonewolf Kai.3682

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