Guild Wars 2

Shelter needs a skill-type.
Note that these are just ideas and my opinion, feel free to propose your own ideas, modify mine and give your opinion.

Shelter becomes a Meditation. With Monk’s Focus, Shelter would only have 24s recharge, grants Fury, and heals for 1960 extra. With Smiter’s Boon on top of that, Shelter would also remove a condition and since Smite Condition is activated, you gain even more Fury and 1960 extra heal. To balance this, Shelter’s base heal is changed to 1000 only, then scales with Healing Power.
Shelter’s heal amount with both traits becomes 1000+1960+1960=4920, which would be close to the current Shelter’s heal amount. The problem with this is that it makes Shelter very bad for any non-Meditation Guardian in PvP.
Alternatively, the Healing Power scaling could be partly tweaked along with Shelter’s base heal.

Litany of Wrath becomes a Consecration. It now becomes ground-targeted. Heals for a decent amount when cast. Allies standing in Litany of Wrath are healed for a % of the damage they deal to foes.
The skill being ground-targeted means that the Guardian can cast Litany of Wrath at their own feet(standing in the AoE) to get the extra heal for themselves, or cast it at any ally to give that one an extra heal. If the Guardian is not standing in the AoE, they do not get the extra heal thus putting their own Heal skill on cooldown to save an ally.

Great idea’s, I hope a dev will read this.
Right now, afaik Shelter is the only slot skill (over all 8 professions) not getting a spell type in the patch. Which strikes me as odd to say the least…

I hope they don’t. Or if they due, realize OP’s idea have flaws.
Non-Meta builds will get a nerf. Not to mention that you’ll give Guards higher fury uptime, further inbalancing the class.
As for Litany, lets not force Guardians to work around yet another stationary symbol. No ally is going to stay in the symbol in WvW or even PvP. Maybe i’m just bias and discourage symbols in general… but I just don’t want to further limit my mobility when I need to stay in a Symbol for heals.

Saiyan.1704:

I hope they don’t. Or if they due, realize OP’s idea have flaws.
Non-Meta builds will get a nerf. Not to mention that you’ll give Guards higher fury uptime, further inbalancing the class.
As for Litany, lets not force Guardians to work around yet another stationary symbol. No ally is going to stay in the symbol in WvW or even PvP. Maybe i’m just bias and discourage symbols in general… but I just don’t want to further limit my mobility when I need to stay in a Symbol for heals.

I dont see how Guardians will have higher Fury uptime with Shelter becoming a Meditation. If a Guardian uses Litany of Wrath(Meditation) right now, they would get the same Fury uptime as the proposal for Shelter(Meditation).

Unless you are implying that Shelter is currently so good that it is the only viable Guardian heal(with the current meta this tends to be true) in PvP, then clearly, Shelter needs to be brought in line with other heals, or other heals need to be brought in line with Shelter. This would mean Shelter(and the other heals) need to be balanced, which brings us back to different proposed changes to Shelter.

As for Litany, I dont know anyone who uses Consecrations in WvW/PvP except Wall of Reflection in WvW anyway. In PvE on the other hand, your party tends to stack on the same spot.
Purging Flames(condition duration on allies are reduced by 33%)
Hallowed Ground(increased boon duration on allies by 20%)
Litany of Wrath(Allies heal for a % of the damage they deal)

I see this proposed Litany fitting in very well for PvE. It doesn’t have to be exactly that, it can be tweaked to something like “allies are healed for a small amount whenever they hit with an attack while standing on Litany”, or a mixture of both.

Saiyan.1704:

I hope they don’t. Or if they due, realize OP’s idea have flaws.
Non-Meta builds will get a nerf. Not to mention that you’ll give Guards higher fury uptime, further inbalancing the class.
As for Litany, lets not force Guardians to work around yet another stationary symbol. No ally is going to stay in the symbol in WvW or even PvP. Maybe i’m just bias and discourage symbols in general… but I just don’t want to further limit my mobility when I need to stay in a Symbol for heals.

It seems like the anet push here is to have any player jump on guard stand like a clueless bag of kitten and press random buttons to play or in other words dumb down the guardian . I hope I am wrong.

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Shelter is fine. Meditation guardian is already over the top with self-sustain. You’re breaking an ability which works fine for everyone to make it slightly better for an already powerful build. That makes ZERO sense.

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Shelter hardly needs a buff. Though I’d take a water field consecration heal, or a buffed sanctuary. Not sure how a damage based heal doesn’t belong in the DPS line :/

I was thinking of making shelter a consectration. Think of it as designating a small space around you where you block most forms of damage, like sanctuary. A lot simpler to do/justify than tweaking two different skills, although the litany change sounds interesting.

Out of curiosity do you guys think litany will be a bit better now with the changes coming soon (and dh with HoT)?

It doesnt have block still but instead it provide more access to aoe fury, bit more frequency smite condition with smiter boon trait along with reduced casttime to nearly insta.

Until it becomes instant, it’ll never be able to hold a candle to shelter.