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Posted by: Zivsof.3746

Zivsof.3746

Hi everyone,
I am interested to create Support guardian for PVE (fractal, Ac, CoF) and WvWvW
I heard a lot about Cleric Armor combine with runes that have 15% Boon duration on each 2 parts of the armor (total 45%) and trait 0/0/20/30/20 . All that i heard from 1 of the Desolation’s guardian commander. weapons are PVT but he didn’t tell me his gear (rings and more)
This build is good for WvWvW and Pve especially Fractals?
If not plz share with me your expertise.
Thanks in advance!!!
Notice: i dont want DPS build only Support build

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Posted by: Shadow.5694

Shadow.5694

First thing I have to say: I don’t play wvw, so what I will telly ou only applies to PvE, dungeons and fractals to be exact, since that’s, what you want to do apparently. If you want to do both, you may have to get 2 sets.

Cleric gear is bad. Healing power scales bad and in dungeons most mobs hit slow, but hard. You can dodge pretty much everything and if you miss a dodge, you use your healing skill. There’s not much need for party heals. DPS is important. The loger a boss lives, the more chances you have to miss a dodge and get hit, so get everything down as fast as possible.

A good guardian does decend dps and good support at the same time. You most important trait is “Pure of Voice”, 30 points in honor. This makes your shouts remove conditions. also take the reduced cooldown for shouts (10 points trait in honor). Shouts are nice for support. You can grant useful boons to your party, including aegis and stability and remove conditions from your teammates.

Also get empowering might to grant might to your party everytime you crit. At this point you probably see, that getting high precision is a good idea.

If you’re running fractals, reflection skills are important, so put 10 points in virtues and take masterful consecrations and use “Wall of Reflection”.

Now you have a lot of support and still 30 points left. Why not increase your dps? Like mentioned above high dps is good. You want to increase you DPS?

If you have troubles surviving and/or don’t want dps here is a ore defensive option: put the 30 points in valor and get altruistic healing (applying boons to allies heals you). It will constantly heal yourself a lot, since you will always grant lots of might to your allies with the empowering might trait… if you have high precision!

If you want to increas your dps put the last 30 points into radiance, get “powerful blades” and “right hand strength” and use sword/focus (or shield if you prefer that).

Gear:
Well, you want precision, so berserker and knights gear are nice. If you took the defensive approach, either go full knights or take berserker trinkets, rest knights. If you have problems with low vitality, you can get 1 or 2 pieces soldier (P/V/T).
If you took the offensive approach you should lean more towards full berserker gear, obviously, because your dps will be higher with that.

If you really need to heal your allies, you dodge roll will heal, thanks to your points in Honor. Also you can equip staff and use empower. Also you have a shout, that grants protection and regeneration.

Weapons: If you have the build with righthand strength use sword for highest dps. Otherwise GS is nice for both dps and the pull. Hammer is probably quite close to GS dpas wise and has some nice CC skills as well. The other weapons are the same for both builds:
Staff for max support (use empower at the begining of the fight) and healing. Scepter is your ranged dps option. As fasr as offhands go focus is usually better, but shield can also be usefull in some situations. I don’t really use mace or torch.

Credits: Full credit goes to Strife025 and BrazilTheHue, since they created these builds and posted them on gw2guru
Links to their posts:
http://www.guildwars2guru.com/topic/70142-after-100s-of-hours-my-final-guardian-build/
http://www.guildwars2guru.com/topic/83701-the-perfect-dps-guardian-build/

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Posted by: Zivsof.3746

Zivsof.3746

First thing I have to say: I don’t play wvw, so what I will telly ou only applies to PvE, dungeons and fractals to be exact, since that’s, what you want to do apparently. If you want to do both, you may have to get 2 sets.

Cleric gear is bad. Healing power scales bad and in dungeons most mobs hit slow, but hard. You can dodge pretty much everything and if you miss a dodge, you use your healing skill. There’s not much need for party heals. DPS is important. The loger a boss lives, the more chances you have to miss a dodge and get hit, so get everything down as fast as possible.

A good guardian does decend dps and good support at the same time. You most important trait is “Pure of Voice”, 30 points in honor. This makes your shouts remove conditions. also take the reduced cooldown for shouts (10 points trait in honor). Shouts are nice for support. You can grant useful boons to your party, including aegis and stability and remove conditions from your teammates.

Also get empowering might to grant might to your party everytime you crit. At this point you probably see, that getting high precision is a good idea.

If you’re running fractals, reflection skills are important, so put 10 points in virtues and take masterful consecrations and use “Wall of Reflection”.

Now you have a lot of support and still 30 points left. Why not increase your dps? Like mentioned above high dps is good. You want to increase you DPS?

If you have troubles surviving and/or don’t want dps here is a ore defensive option: put the 30 points in valor and get altruistic healing (applying boons to allies heals you). It will constantly heal yourself a lot, since you will always grant lots of might to your allies with the empowering might trait… if you have high precision!

If you want to increas your dps put the last 30 points into radiance, get “powerful blades” and “right hand strength” and use sword/focus (or shield if you prefer that).

Gear:
Well, you want precision, so berserker and knights gear are nice. If you took the defensive approach, either go full knights or take berserker trinkets, rest knights. If you have problems with low vitality, you can get 1 or 2 pieces soldier (P/V/T).
If you took the offensive approach you should lean more towards full berserker gear, obviously, because your dps will be higher with that.

If you really need to heal your allies, you dodge roll will heal, thanks to your points in Honor. Also you can equip staff and use empower. Also you have a shout, that grants protection and regeneration.

Weapons: If you have the build with righthand strength use sword for highest dps. Otherwise GS is nice for both dps and the pull. Hammer is probably quite close to GS dpas wise and has some nice CC skills as well. The other weapons are the same for both builds:
Staff for max support (use empower at the begining of the fight) and healing. Scepter is your ranged dps option. As fasr as offhands go focus is usually better, but shield can also be usefull in some situations. I don’t really use mace or torch.

Credits: Full credit goes to Strife025 and BrazilTheHue, since they created these builds and posted them on gw2guru
Links to their posts:
http://www.guildwars2guru.com/topic/70142-after-100s-of-hours-my-final-guardian-build/
http://www.guildwars2guru.com/topic/83701-the-perfect-dps-guardian-build/

Dame you wrote alot but I understand you, I would like to take this build:
http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/guardian/?3.3|1.1n.h1|2.1n.h1|1n.7x.1n.7x.1n.7x.1n.7x.1n.7x.1n.7x|4s.d1f.2s.d1e.3s.d1e.1n.67.1n.67.2s.d1e|0.0.u56b.u298.a6|54.k|d.17.16.19.1i|e
the problem is i already bought Cleric Ascended Amulet =_=". and infused zerker ring it really rare to find in Fractals. By the way what about full knight build? (credits to Magiczipper Twitch streamer):
http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/guardian/?3.0|2.1n.h15|6.1n.h8|1n.7x.1n.7x.1n.7x.1n.7x.1n.7x.1n.7x|41j.d1f.21j.d19.31j.d19.21j.d19.31j.d19.2s.d19|0.0.u56b.u389.a6|55.7|v.17.19.11.1i|e

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Posted by: NapoleonMP.7964

NapoleonMP.7964

I’m just gonna jump on this post, is the AH build the best for healing/support? There are talents using symbols to heal and what not. I’m looking only for WvW. No matter what class i seem to play if i try to DPS i over extend and die…. lol its not the class (engie, mesmer) fault it lays at my feet only. So now i’m looking at a more in the back and support class/build. Thank you all in advance.

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Posted by: aophts.9862

aophts.9862

Dungeons is all about DPS.

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Posted by: Zivsof.3746

Zivsof.3746

Can i go with Full knight gear yes or no?

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Posted by: Bloodgruve.6038

Bloodgruve.6038

AH is a ‘selfish’ trait as it only effects you and you need others around you to maximize it. IMHO it’s not needed for support, it’s simply very helpful in staying on your feet, especially in WvW. I’ve had my run with AH and it was great, but I personally consider it ‘training wheels’, no offense to AH players.

IMHO one of the strongest forms of support we have is Hammer’s Symbol of Protection, it will mitigate a ton of damage for melee that play in it. Another is Pure of Voice in condition heavy environments. Wall of Reflection and Shield of the Avenger vs. projectiles can trivialize some encounters. Staff is great for support with Might, swiftness, healing and a wall. IIRC Selfless Daring scales better than anything with healing power.

DPS is a good form of support, if you kill something quickly you will mitigate a lot of ongoing damage

I started with PVT gear and AH but that was just way too much. Zerker works well with AH, especially in PvE. If you’re concerned start with Knights and mix in Zerkers as you get more comfortable. Find your sleep number, mine is 10 Zerker 2 Soldiers in 10/30/0/30/0.

GL out there,

Blood~

“Real knowledge is to know the extent of one’s ignorance”

(edited by Bloodgruve.6038)