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Posted by: Teamkiller.4315

Teamkiller.4315

0/10/30/30/0

Traits are

Radiance Line: Signets recharge 20% faster
Valor Line: Remove condition every 10 seconds, 5% of toughness = precision, Altruistic Healing
Honor Line: Symbols are larger OR shouts recharge faster, two handed weapon skills recharge faster, and battle presence

Attack: 2950’ish
Crit chance: 40%
Crit damage: 53%
Armor: 3170
HP: 16405
Healing Power: 300
Condition damage: 100

Weapons

Staff/Gsword

Utilities

Signet of resolve (healing)

Stand your ground (stunbreak)
Wall of reflection (projectile counter)
Shield of Avenger (more projectile counter)

Tome of Wrath (Um…it’s useful!!! Plus I don’t like Tome of Courage)

Mainly what I do is I am heavy heavy offensive support (coupled with some defensive support). The group that I usually run with is either a small camp havoc squad or a zerg busting squad. When I am running with a small squad I will begin the battle with swiftness and empower on all allies, and if there isn’t a zerg killing us I’ll pop tome of wrath almost immediately to do heavy heavy burst damage along with heavy support (trust me, giving that might, quickness, and fury to your neighborhood friendly thief is AMAZING because they do not have to rely on haste, giving up their survivability). I’ll usually then open in the center of the battle with judgment and my buddies will take them down while I spam 2 1 1 from the Tome till it’s up (I pop the quickness again at the end if I can). Staff for healing and more might, swiftness for healing and…swiftness, orb for healing, and then I will either spam staff autoattack everywhere or I will go greatsword for more damage (if I’m running with a small group and we have thieves I will let binding blade tick instead of pulling).

With zergs, it’s a big different. When we stack for might I instead pop my empower 3 seconds before we leave, then I put a symbol of swiftness in front of our zerg. Right before we are about to hit them I pop stand your ground to give stability so we don’t get borked on entry, and then I follow up with all my greatsword skills. Usually 5 2 4. I switch back to staff and empower again, heal with staff 2, and spam the autoattack everywhere. If we are regrouping I put down either one of my projectile counter utilities. If the enemy is running away I put down a line of warding to stop them from escaping and regrouping. (I use it to hold chokes as well, and occasionally if we’re regrouping and they’re hot on us I’ll use it to stall them)

So? Rate this build please!

I was actually considering putting 10 points in virtues instead of radiance so I could trait consecrations. Let me know if this is a good idea or not.

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Posted by: Samis.1750

Samis.1750

I like the idea of 10 in virtues but with a caveat. I guess a key question for you is, if you lose the signet cooldown and then keep the Signet heal or go with Shelter (which is nice with 2 blocks and a lower cooldown – my preferred choice without the signet trait), is your survivability satifactory? Might depend upon the type of fight. I have plenty of healing but low crit, so I don’t have the base numbere of dodges as you.

This allows you lower cooldowns if you grab 1 or more consecrations. 5 point trait is nice or you can get +25% retaliation which goes nice with your Greatsword symbol, SYG and you can even pick up Save Yourself.

No idea about Shield of the Avenger. Does it get clobbered by AE in WvW? You also already have WoR.

Not sure about the shout cooldown trait with only 1 shout. Why not grab 2-3 shouts and take the 30 point Pure of Voice instead of Battle Presence? With the AH trait, the shouts will heal yourself with each buff. I am uncertain how good Battle Presence is with 300 healing and without the 20 point virtue trait to go with it.

I am inclined to agree with you regarding Tome of Courage with only 300 healing. But don’t underestimate Renewed Focus as an emergency button.

Look for synergies and don’t spread yourself to thin. You can’t build for everything and you need to keep yourself alive as well.

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Posted by: Teamkiller.4315

Teamkiller.4315

I like the idea of 10 in virtues but with a caveat. I guess a key question for you is, if you lose the signet cooldown and then keep the Signet heal or go with Shelter (which is nice with 2 blocks and a lower cooldown – my preferred choice without the signet trait), is your survivability satifactory? Might depend upon the type of fight. I have plenty of healing but low crit, so I don’t have the base numbere of dodges as you.

Yeah, it’s only a 5 second longer cooldown. Shelter heals me for around 5000 + 70+ every time I block an attack while using it (seeing as how one of the minor traits gives me might on block). I’m typically in the frontline or in the middle of a zerg so while using signet of resolve I take damage or I have to jump back behind friendly lines to use it. Shelter mitigates all that completely, although I will miss healing up from 20 to 70% health with one heal.

It’s also perfectly viable to keep signet of resolve, because I do not use it that often any how. A lot of my healing comes from the AH+Empower synergy.

No idea about Shield of the Avenger. Does it get clobbered by AE in WvW? You also already have WoR.

Not really, it actually is durable enough to last most of the time it’s summoned for, surprisingly enough. The reason for this is I pop it only when WoR is on cooldown, and both are usually popped when we are regrouping or taking heavy fire (which means a lot of my allies will be there to soak up the damage instead of the shield)

Not sure about the shout cooldown trait with only 1 shout. Why not grab 2-3 shouts and take the 30 point Pure of Voice instead of Battle Presence? With the AH trait, the shouts will heal yourself with each buff. I am uncertain how good Battle Presence is with 300 healing and without the 20 point virtue trait to go with it.

Most of the time I use larger symbols. It’s easier to get allies inside the symbol of swiftness/retaliation that way, and symbol of wrath has a larger aoe. Both will constantly reapply boons to allies standing in them, which I view as a second source of regen.

I trait the shout because we are in constant need of group stability, and 6 seconds off the cooldown is pretty amazing. I won’t pick up Save Yourselves for zvz because I will be picking up too many conditions and my condition removal is mostly passive.

I am inclined to agree with you regarding Tome of Courage with only 300 healing. But don’t underestimate Renewed Focus as an emergency button.

The way I really see it is like this: renewed focus isn’t worth it because it doesn’t add any group utility, and actually takes away from group utility because I am doing nothing those 3 seconds I’m invulnerable. Sure I recharge my virtues and I can pop them again all over, but compared to the tomes, especially wrath, I think it’s better to use that.

What I cannot survive is being focused down by most of the enemy zerg. This rarely happens, and even if it does, only 3 seconds of invulnerable will not save me.

Look for synergies and don’t spread yourself to thin. You can’t build for everything and you need to keep yourself alive as well.

Haha thanks. This build isn’t too good for dueling, no matter how I feel it should be. I mostly specialize in neutralizing projectiles and pushing the front line

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Posted by: Niim.9260

Niim.9260

IMO your build is all over the place and has a bit to much ‘me’ stuff for a support build, but group play is all about group synergy and you will know better than anyone what your group needs.

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Posted by: ComeAndSee.1356

ComeAndSee.1356

I run practically the same build (except 10 in Virtues instead of Radiance for Consecrated ground) and use the Mace+Shield / Staff and stack +healing. My load out is Wall of Reflection, Stand your Ground, and Sanctuary.

I’m not a fan of Shield of Avenger in WvW because it gets killed by AOE very fast. Sanctuary is the better option because it can block choke points or be used as a way to get players off you or help you res other players.

Battle Presence is kind of “meh” if you aren’t stacking +healing or really aren’t trying to make an honest effort to heal. You can run Pure of Voice instead and go Stand your Ground, Wall of Reflection, and Hold the Line instead.

You don’t need Signet Mastery either because the Staff + AH is just as powerful as your big heal.

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Posted by: Teamkiller.4315

Teamkiller.4315

Alright, I made the change today from 10 in radiance to 10 in virtues. I have 500 less HP and 3% less critical damage but around the same stats in everything else (also lost 100 condition damage but who cares about that lol) I switched out my third utility Shield of Avenger for Hallowed Ground. I notice that after SyG wears off me and my group get put under a lot of well…er…you could say…control effects…so Hallowed Ground is pretty useful to have. Not to mention it gives a TON of personal healing, as much as the empower + AH heal.

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Posted by: ComeAndSee.1356

ComeAndSee.1356

Not to mention it gives a TON of personal healing, as much as the empower + AH heal.

Really? I’m going to have to play around with that.

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Posted by: Teamkiller.4315

Teamkiller.4315

Not to mention it gives a TON of personal healing, as much as the empower + AH heal.

Really? I’m going to have to play around with that.

Yeah, if you drop it in the middle of all your allies, it pulses stability 11 times for each ally. that’s on par with the empower heal.