Sword in PvE Meta now?
Well, based on a few cursory DPS tests hammer still does more DPS than sword, even with the new symbol. And even then, guards are still leagues behind everyone else in DPS.
Well, based on a few cursory DPS tests hammer still does more DPS than sword, even with the new symbol. And even then, guards are still leagues behind everyone but mesmers in DPS.
Fixed it.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/4ft01q/qt_dps_benchmarkstests_for_all_classes/
You people are so pathetically misinformed.
Guardian only behind ele, thief, rev, and engineer.
It is ahead of mesmer, necro, warrior, and ranger.
Stop crying. Your hammer rotation is braindead and nets you 29k DPS, way ahead of power ranger’s 18k DPS or mesmer’s 13k DPS.
I honestly didn’t test enough to make sure but it seems hammer 1 spam is still the way to go. At the very least mighty blow being affected by quickness didn’t seem to have much of an effect and I was quite consistently getting 1k dps lower than with just aa-ing.
The typical old GS sw/t-fc does have an increased dps but still seems quite a bit worse than hammer spam.
If anything beats the hammer spam it’s prob a sword – scepter build.
In any case I’d keep my eyes on reddit for the next couple of days. I’m quite sure guilds like qT will post their new benchmarks this week.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/4ft01q/qt_dps_benchmarkstests_for_all_classes/
You people are so pathetically misinformed.
Guardian only behind ele, thief, rev, and engineer.
It is ahead of mesmer, necro, warrior, and ranger.
Stop crying. Your hammer rotation is braindead and nets you 29k DPS, way ahead of power ranger’s 18k DPS or mesmer’s 13k DPS.
There’s nothing to be misinformed about here. While we’re ahead of chrono, druid and warrior they bring so much more to the table than guardian ever did support-wise. Furthermore a target that only stands still so we can overlap symbols is rather rare in high end PvE making these tests very unreliable compared to actual dps in fights. Necro DPS is also not very representative as it doesn’t factor in minions staying alive longer due to group heals or bouncing epis or condi transfers or the thorn rune stacks and actually pulls ahead quite a bit depending on the boss.
I’m also not really sure what to make of your “stop crying” and “braindead rotation” in the same point. Isn’t the hammer 1 braindead spam alone enough to actually complain about? As if that’s actually an enjoyable rotation lmao.
The only thing your post proves here is that we were the lowest DPS class of the pure dps classes as again, the class’ support is completely obsolete atm. Daredevil which is #2 on your list was in fact in the same exact spot in the meta => not wanted. IDK how it is now yet, but as for the previous meta your post is extremely shortsighted.
I honestly didn’t test enough to make sure but it seems hammer 1 spam is still the way to go. At the very least mighty blow being affected by quickness didn’t seem to have much of an effect and I was quite consistently getting 1k dps lower than with just aa-ing.
The typical old GS sw/t-fc does have an increased dps but still seems quite a bit worse than hammer spam.
If anything beats the hammer spam it’s prob a sword – scepter build.
In any case I’d keep my eyes on reddit for the next couple of days. I’m quite sure guilds like qT will post their new benchmarks this week.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/4ft01q/qt_dps_benchmarkstests_for_all_classes/
You people are so pathetically misinformed.
Guardian only behind ele, thief, rev, and engineer.
It is ahead of mesmer, necro, warrior, and ranger.
Stop crying. Your hammer rotation is braindead and nets you 29k DPS, way ahead of power ranger’s 18k DPS or mesmer’s 13k DPS.
There’s nothing to be misinformed about here. While we’re ahead of chrono, druid and warrior they bring so much more to the table than guardian ever did support-wise. Furthermore a target that only stands still so we can overlap symbols is rather rare in high end PvE making these tests very unreliable compared to actual dps in fights. Necro DPS is also not very representative as it doesn’t factor in minions staying alive longer due to group heals or bouncing epis or condi transfers or the thorn rune stacks and actually pulls ahead quite a bit depending on the boss.
I’m also not really sure what to make of your “stop crying” and “braindead rotation” in the same point. Isn’t the hammer 1 braindead spam alone enough to actually complain about? As if that’s actually an enjoyable rotation lmao.
The only thing your post proves here is that we were the lowest DPS class of the pure dps classes as again, the class’ support is completely obsolete atm. Daredevil which is #2 on your list was in fact in the same exact spot in the meta => not wanted. IDK how it is now yet, but as for the previous meta your post is extremely shortsighted.
You’re not a pure DPS class. Guardian is not DPS, stop being a dolt. So much more utility? Other than rev only guardian can bring perma prot, and nobody else brings aegis or the projectile destruction uptimes of a guardian specced for consecrations or avenger shield (not even mesmer).
If any raid mechanic also involved stability, guardian is the only class with group stability as well.
Guardian is a defensive utility class. You rolled the wrong class if you wanted a primary DPS class, it’s even there at the Vanilla GW2 release AMA’s, where developers have constantly stated guardian has less offense as a result of better defensive capabilities for the group.
It’s not the game’s fault most of this content is so braindead that group defense is unimportant now.
It’s the developer’s fault for developing content where the only defense you need is dodging isnd the odd lunar impact from a druid.
Guardian should have gotten the healing spec, anyways, not druid. It’s ironic that they gave a better longbow and traps to guardian and then support and heals to a ranger. What a joke.
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I noticed that, when traited, new Sword #2 is a perma fury area + healing area.
Maybe it does have sense to take it over mace for some encounters…
Traited sword 2 is 8s cd while traited symbol only lasts 6s, so yes on perma fury but no on perma symbol. Scepter is a little closer as they both match up to 6s, but the aftercast it from being a true perma active. Still, the three 1h symbols all have very competitive uptimes.
Fishsticks
Well, based on a few cursory DPS tests hammer still does more DPS than sword, even with the new symbol. And even then, guards are still leagues behind everyone else in DPS.
Wrong. Scepter guard does the same dps as ele on a small hit box now….
Have fun. Be Alive. K Thnx Bye.
Scepter/Torch could be better than Hammer.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/4ft01q/qt_dps_benchmarkstests_for_all_classes/
You people are so pathetically misinformed.
Guardian only behind ele, thief, rev, and engineer.
It is ahead of mesmer, necro, warrior, and ranger.
Stop crying. Your hammer rotation is braindead and nets you 29k DPS, way ahead of power ranger’s 18k DPS or mesmer’s 13k DPS.
Wrong! 34k scepter rotation now Lel.
Have fun. Be Alive. K Thnx Bye.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/4ft01q/qt_dps_benchmarkstests_for_all_classes/
You people are so pathetically misinformed.
Guardian only behind ele, thief, rev, and engineer.
It is ahead of mesmer, necro, warrior, and ranger.
Stop crying. Your hammer rotation is braindead and nets you 29k DPS, way ahead of power ranger’s 18k DPS or mesmer’s 13k DPS.
Wrong! 34k scepter rotation now Lel.
Let them cry more, though. About their poor 29-34k DPS while other classes are only doing a third of their DPS.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/4ft01q/qt_dps_benchmarkstests_for_all_classes/
You people are so pathetically misinformed.
Guardian only behind ele, thief, rev, and engineer.
It is ahead of mesmer, necro, warrior, and ranger.
Stop crying. Your hammer rotation is braindead and nets you 29k DPS, way ahead of power ranger’s 18k DPS or mesmer’s 13k DPS.
Wrong! 34k scepter rotation now Lel.
Let them cry more, though. About their poor 29-34k DPS while other classes are only doing a third of their DPS.
The main issue with Guardians is that it was boring to play, this is no longer the case with the changes made, but that’s only for anything outside of Raids and High Level fractals.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/4ft01q/qt_dps_benchmarkstests_for_all_classes/
You people are so pathetically misinformed.
Guardian only behind ele, thief, rev, and engineer.
It is ahead of mesmer, necro, warrior, and ranger.
Stop crying. Your hammer rotation is braindead and nets you 29k DPS, way ahead of power ranger’s 18k DPS or mesmer’s 13k DPS.
Wrong! 34k scepter rotation now Lel.
Let them cry more, though. About their poor 29-34k DPS while other classes are only doing a third of their DPS.
The main issue with Guardians is that it was boring to play, this is no longer the case with the changes made, but that’s only for anything outside of Raids and High Level fractals.
Welcome to GW2. You’ve got 10 skills, of which only 8 can possibly offensive and only half of those MAYBE rotational.
I mean, this game was bound to be easy with only 8 skills to use in PvE.
Guardian dps is hot garbage because its too situational. Theres very few enemies that sit in one spot and let you spam hammer 1 for max dps, and when it comes to projectile destruction rev is the way to go because it maintains most of its use while doing that (boon enhancement).
Guardian dps is hot garbage because its too situational. Theres very few enemies that sit in one spot and let you spam hammer 1 for max dps, and when it comes to projectile destruction rev is the way to go because it maintains most of its use while doing that (boon enhancement).
By that you mean ever raid boss except by and slot for 30% of the time?
Have fun. Be Alive. K Thnx Bye.
Rev might be the ‘way to go’ for projectile destruction on paperland, but on reality they are little more than boon bots. Thats not to degrade them however, but in order for them to be best at what they do (bringing good dps with boons) they cant afford much of the other stuff. Guards lose least amount of utility/dps for bringing projectile reflects (important and different from just destroying) and destruction as its the case of fire and forget of a maximum of 2 utility skills – no need to legend/weapon swap like a rev.
As for movement in fights and what it does to dps, I believe that while it certainly affects the dps heavily – it is a problem many of the builds in game face and we arent that bad in it. Having Writ of Persistence helps a lot for the target to remain in symbols as much as possible when moving with the boost to symbol size and duration – and that alone is more than what a staff ele or power ps has to minimise loss. Since most of the damage from the meta hammer build can be placed on a location where we want them (symbols and traps) a bit of intuition goes a long way.