Guild Wars 2

Pretty fun and weird build that I’ve been running lately:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fVAQRAsf7enkIS5QWNEuDB/QmwfoseBqgAArG86SoF+AA-TZRGABA8AAS4kA0y+DNXGwgjAAA

It uses right hand strength (15% crit chance with 1handers)
and retributive armor (7% toughness conv to precision)
with a Cavalier amulet (power +toughness +ferocity)

Rune of the traveller works well with it too since you need to stick to your target to really deal the sword damage and it adds to might duration.

I like the shield 5 a lot in combo with merciful intervention and the torch skills

for casual sPVP ya know…

Please don’t use litany of wrath.. Ever

it works with cleave and aoe deer sheep

It’s trash. Intentionally not gimping myself with a subpar heal doesn’t make me a sheep. It means I have an IQ greater than 70.

It works just fine if you have the meditation traits.

Silhouette.5631:

It works just fine if you have the meditation traits.

Where? In hotjoin? Shelter is not only a solid heal, but you can cancel cast it and use the block for save stomps. Because in cause you haven’t noticed, cancel casting I’ll give you the full block duration.

Idk, I’m fairly new to guardian, but in un ranked I like running signer sometimes, on a 02606 build with signet mastery. Idk, I’m a fan of the nearly 11k heal, and the passive is pretty nice when it gets you out of some pinch immobilizes, heavy bleed stacks, etc.
I use shelter too, and run 20606. Just i see the signet as a viable option, any pro guardians have a comment on signet???

oscuro.9720:

Idk, I’m fairly new to guardian, but in un ranked I like running signer sometimes, on a 02606 build with signet mastery. Idk, I’m a fan of the nearly 11k heal, and the passive is pretty nice when it gets you out of some pinch immobilizes, heavy bleed stacks, etc.
I use shelter too, and run 20606. Just i see the signet as a viable option, any pro guardians have a comment on signet???

you will get wrecked when you reach the level where players are good enough to interupt your heals.

Ok, I play thief with withdraw, so I interrupt heals, didn’t think of it from that perspective. I literally have 2 hours on guard, so haven’t put a lot of time into it, but having fun so far
(Looking for a new main since I’m getting bored of their)

As man said, its good until you face players who can interrupt your kitten (see engis, theives, and mesmers). If you’re fine trying to find LOS everytime you want to heal, then its far more powerful. Problem with it is that guardian, by design, was meant to be the first dude in and the last dude out and shelter only increases your survivability in team fights even more (imagine being able to tank 5 players for 2 seconds as opposed to trying to heal and then getting wrecked by an interrupt and all the added dps). Theoretically, shelter heals for more since you usually aim to heal AND block a serious burst.

@OP
Don’t worry if you enjoy litany as a heal. When the trait rework drops, litany will get a serious buff if you like being ultra aggressive. Also, I’m not sure if having 12k HP and no condi cleanse is a smart idea :P. Aside from that, it seems like you’re trying to tank with this build but do damage but I don’t see either happening VS a competent player. Offensively, you have enough precision and enough ferocity, but you have very little power. You’ve tried offsetting that lack of power with a bit of burn from your torch, but you’ve given up too much for too little. Back to the guardian’s imagine of being the fight and staying there, 12k HP is far too little and what with your lack of focus or shelter, any raw DPS or even cele builds will totally stomp on you. A build like this MIGHT work on warrior since they’ve got more HP and, generally, stronger weapons, but I’m not too keen on this one with guard.

well interupts is a problem with any heal so I wouldnt count this against litany if your shelter gets interupted you are in serious doodoo as well.

the build however has a lot more flaws like SlayerSixx pointed out. Shelter would be the actual better choice in this build to use in combo with shield of the protector to compensate the power issue. 5-8 stacks are pretty common after a good palced shelter. even mor if yu are i a team fight.

But whats up with wrathful spirit and healer retribution? those two traits do really nothing for you. loose both. in readiance literally everything would be a better choice besides signet mastery. inspired virtues does a lot more for you and your team and can help with the power porblem if you try to spike an enemy after a good shelter-might-gain+ weapon spot+VoJ you could easily be looking at 15 stacks of might – short duration but at least you be getting somewhere.

I highly suggest you substitute merciful intervention for CoP. yes 4k heal is cool and it counters condi damage quite a bit but it will not a turn a fight in your favour but simply prolong it.

I love merciful intervention. its such a cool toy but especially in your build I do not see room for it.

With that build, the first condi class you find can kill you easy why you’ve low condi cleaner (only one skill that clean a single condi every 16 sec) and 12k hp.
But just for fun it can work.

It would make sense for litany to become instant like all other meditations in some time.
And that way foe would be less likely to notice it and kite you when you use it.

I agree last version was missing condi. removal
I’m still hesitating between purity and retributive armor…
(1 condi removed every 10s versus +7% crit chance)

I’m also hesitating between runes of the flame legion (7% dmg against burning foe)
or rune of fire (10% might duration)

Fiery wrath + radiant power and flame legion rune means +27% dmg against burning foes.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fVAQRAsf5enkIS5QWNEeDB/QmIeIse8drqgr/3zB-T5QGABA8AAGZ/hmLDAA
Here’s the updated build with slightly more power and burn duration and 1 more anti stun (contemplation of purity replace m intervention), but I’m wondering if it’s really worth speccing into long burn without considering amplified wrath (+33% burning damage). The main benefit being the +27% dmg on burning foes. Maybe powerful blades instead of lower cd on torch since they’re already only 15 sec.

The torch is really decent imo because it burns aoe and does decent damage (way more dps than focus if you consider the awful cd. Cleansing fire is more situational it can be used against players not in range of the sword attack or to remove conditions on allies which can be sometimes very useful.
The only problem is not having combo finishers.
I’m ok with having only 11k hp because meditation are instant and I have 2 stun break and 2 condi removal.

@ SlayerSixx: While it is true that having high hp and high armor is the best. This build just couldnt work without right hand strength so is therefore not applicable to warrior. Guardian are meant to have low hp because of the teleport, the blocks, and the heals.

Traited focus > traited any offhand.

I know how guardian works, but there IS such a thing as too little HP. Regardless of your toughness, you’ll never live long enough to do anything of note to anyone, even a thief. You want to talk about active defenses but aren’t running the two biggest active defense tools available to guardian AND you’re running with 10k HP. On the note of active defenses, you’ll rarely find stats like toughness and and healing power making much of a difference (although tooooo little toughness could pose as a problem) to a guardian.

SlayerSixx.5763:

Traited focus > traited any offhand.

I know how guardian works, but there IS such a thing as too little HP. Regardless of your toughness, you’ll never live long enough to do anything of note to anyone, even a thief. You want to talk about active defenses but aren’t running the two biggest active defense tools available to guardian AND you’re running with 10k HP. On the note of active defenses, you’ll rarely find stats like toughness and and healing power making much of a difference (although tooooo little toughness could pose as a problem) to a guardian.

I agree fully. At the moment the only class that really sucks to go up against are necros with condi bursts that are clever enough to wait out all your cleanses (which is actually really easy to spot.)

Drennon.7190:

It’s trash. Intentionally not gimping myself with a subpar heal doesn’t make me a sheep. It means I have an IQ greater than 70.

Normally I’d agree with you, but I’ve had to switch to litany because the game was no longer fun unless I kitten myself.

I guess having crappy skills in a game does serve some purpose, let’s you play with new stuff when you’re bored and see how well you can get them to work.

Once I get bored with that, I guess I’ll try using antitoxin spray as my main heal… in WvW at any rate.

Litany of Wrath is actually exceptional in downscaled and even some not-downscaled PvE where you deal inordinate amounts of damage to mobs. Using it even without the traits sustains you at 100% HP for its entire duration almost without fail. I use it like that to solo quite an astonishing list of champions and events.

It really should have an instant cast time, however. It would be pretty clutch being able to activate it while CC’d and then use Smite Condition for a burst heal.