Guild Wars 2

http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=V7Z-Bx;0NF-4093RG-90;9;6TT9;446A49A5;0U;01U;1ZF18ZF183Rs

Ton of healing, ton of support, line-backing, condition cleanses, and longevity. Knight’s jewel for an additional 1k+ of HP. Feels like the same old, same old, but, at the very least, the difference in play style is slightly refreshing. -_-

Actually one of the original bunker builds save for the new healing power with mace trait which didn’t exists originally.

I would almost suggest moving 10 points out of valor and down into virtues and getting absolute resolution for more healing per second and condition cleanse.

Altruistic Healing will get you more burst healing with staff if you are around other team mates, but if you are bunkering a spot alone, then you may want a more constant flow with virtue of resolve ticks.

Either setup works though, but I think the meta is evolving past none damaging Guardian bunkers and more to bunkers than can cause some counter pressure as well.

Guardians are excelling in team fights more than solo bunkering because of the group retaliation.

How is staff solo bunker? How is purging flames not condition pressure? How is group wide 12 stacks of might not pressure? Giant damaging symbols that are based on power rating…not pressure?

compare the damage you do with other bunker specs such as engineer bunkers or elementalists if they bunker.

Our biggest pressure is via someone killing themselves on retaliation.

12 stacks of might is going to take your “giant damaging symbol” that did 1570 damage every 15 seconds up to something around 1950 damage. That is 390 damage for 5 ticks, which is auto attacking with no gear.

Purging flames is best as utility to cleanse conditions. You do not have any condition damage augmenting your burning damage, and condition damage has proven time and time again to not be worth it on guardians anyway.

Now going back to the group wide comment, 12 stacks of might with allies near by IS a game changer which will allow your group to push out that much more damage versus the other group.

That is why I said Guardians are better team fight players than solo bunkering in some aspects of the meta.

You show me the last time someone was afraid of being killed by a bunker guardian and I don’t mean a rogue or warrior spamming attacks while you have retal on…they deserve to die.

Nice – all that text and you managed to avoid the questions.

I’ll make it easier for you: Is doing damage against an opponent consider pressure to you? Or, in your mind, is every support centered guardian standing idle on a node doing nothing?

Either way, it sounds what you’re looking for is either a hybrid or DPS guardian. Neither of which was the point of my thread.

He did answer your question…

Damage isnt pressure if its easily ignored/outhealed. When you cant out damage regen. then your only able to buff allies. He pointed all this out but you either didnt understand it or didnt read.

Your build will work well at supporting, but bunkers need to be tanky and put out enough damage to push people off a point, otherwise they will just sit there and slowly wear you down. Which granted would give you time to get team mates to come but overall youll tend to just be ignored.

What point do you plan on bunkering?

If its mid, then the 0/0/10/30/30 hammer, sceptre/shield guardian is going to keep you off that point.

But that sounds like Guardians can’t bunker. Are they no longer the main bunker in sPvP? I’m actually asking since I mainly WvW. Or are you saying that Guardians have to build DPS to bunker? Which sounds insane.

No, what I hope people are referring to by damage are control skills if you are talking about damage then you really are just doing it wrong. They are still the main bunker in pvp.
Guardian is Bunker/Support/Control, a role which no other class comes remotely close to filling. That’s why they’re on every team.

The giant misconception is that Guardians don’t do any damage on a Control Bunker but that’s false too, due to Chains of Light and your other snares/controls you can get your ally to hit their full amount of damage which results in a large amount of indirect damage from the bunker themselves.

Very good point, and needs some clarification.

The amazing aspect of guardians is the ability to delay the cap of a point and give allies time to arrive to support that point, and then the guardian makes it so the arriving allies can burst a target that is locked down with chains of light and return a lot of AE damage via group retaliation.

Additionally if you are using staff you are giving 12 might to the allies near you and keeping them ahead on life with ae healing via regeneration and even possibly symbols depending on your build.

Guardians are not damage in terms of solo bunkering, but the control and support you provide is amazing.

Gaurdians are still great bunkers, but if you plan to solo bunker and never need team mates to come help, then you are not utilizing the abilities to the fullest.

Other professions can do solo damage and bunker better, but we can bunker and help win big team fights at highly contested points better. After we claim it we can hold it long enough to get allies back in and again win the big team fight.

I hope I am speaking along the same lines as Jax is and not too far off point, because he has a great list of pvp setups, to include bunker builds and map specific strategies. If you haven’t seen it, go check it out.

I do still think the meta is starting to evolve past Guardian as the “best” bunker, and there are some teams where it becomes situational. Players are figuring out how to lock down and pressure the Guardian bunker a lot better now than the did before.