Trouble with mesmers in small-scale WvW

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Posted by: ParaldaWind.4523

ParaldaWind.4523

Here are my stats/build: http://gw2buildcraft...6b.k38.5|39.7|e

It’s pretty much a jack of all trades build. Works relatively well in duels (I can beat or tie with most d/d eles), and excels in large scale fights (passive heals everywhere from altruistic healing). Plus, I hit like a truck. My biggest problem is dealing with confusion/condition mesmers in small fights. In a large fight, I can be mostly shielded by others so the conditions don’t really hit me that hard, but when it’s a 1v1 or 5v5, they hurt pretty badly. Even if I run smite condition (which has a 16 second cd on my build), the removal just isn’t quick enough, and the confusion destroys me.

I also get kited pretty badly in small fights, because I’m melee only (with staff in big fights). I have a lot of mobility and control with judge’s intervention/greatsword/hammer, but mesmers give me a ton of trouble. Thieves do to a lesser extent, just because they always run away.

I’ve considered a possible remedy is to get rid of my 15 radiance (which is a lot of my might stacking/heals in big fights) and just go for a cookie cutter pure of voice/shout build. That would take care of the confusion, but shouts have such kittenty utilities. I would just become a stats box, and that’s not really fun to me.

Does anyone have some advice as to how to deal with condition mesmers without me having to completely change my build?

Since my build site doesn’t let me put down my utilities, I use Signet Heal, Judge’s Intervention, Save Yourselves (or smite condition), Signet of Judgment (or Hallowed Ground for big fights), and Renewed Focus.

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Posted by: Amins.3710

Amins.3710

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You need an active condition removal.

Meditation builds have zero problems w/ Mesmers.

If you’re in small scale and your weapon is a Staff… ugh.

Time your blocks / dodges for when the clones come running at you.

If you have your staff equiped, kill the clones w/ #1 until you can swap out and go back to dps’n.

Don’t just consitantly ‘charge’. If you’re working w/ a GS/Staff build, you can afford to kite a bit yourself…. if they have 3 clones out, pull back and once they charge in, leap over them to the mesmer.

If you’re in the middle w/ a bunch of people and you see the mesmer ready to pop in, Whirling Wraith! Kill the clones before the get in shatter range. There is a Delay to the shatter, they have to stop momentarily to shatter (at least that’s the animation). If you can kill them before or as they’re stoping you’ll avoid the massive dmg.

Check out some of my video’s. I have plent of them where i’m killing mesmers.

And above all…. STOP ATTACKING when you have more than 3 stacks on you.

Just
Take
Your
Hand
Off
The
Attack
Buttons!

Just because we’re melee doesn’t mean we can’t kite.

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Posted by: Christos de Soufre.3802

Christos de Soufre.3802

Worst case scenario, just stop doing anything and run for LoS if you can’t do anything about a current confusion stack.

Chris “Dawnheart” Aerinoh — Revenant, Guardian — Blackgate

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Posted by: Heinel.6548

Heinel.6548

Guardians tend not to fair very well against confusion bombers, especially the ones spec’ed with boon removal. You’ll die most of the time, or is completely shutdown so you might just as well die. To combat that there’s two ways, either you

1) Spec full condition removal. All shouts, pure of voice, purity, absolute resolution, soldiers runes. Be very careful about managing confusion stacks on yourself. If you use save yourselves there’s a chance you’ll pull too many stacks, but you will help your team better this way.

2) Spec full condition duration reduction. Rune of melandru, condition reduction food. In order to kill the mesmer you need at least JI and a hammer. It is also possible to bring save yourselves in this build and CoP whenever you get high stacks.

(Alternatively, go full glass and burst the mesmer down before they can stack works too.)

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Posted by: ComeAndSee.1356

ComeAndSee.1356

If you have Signet of Resolve and Purity it should take care of those Confusion stacks.

Mesmers can rip your boons away by putting down an AOE skill called Null Field which looks like a white pulsing crystal circle. If you roll out of you’re in good shape.

Really what you need to do is focus more on looking for the actual Mesmer. The purple clones are Phantasm’s which are always not the Mesmer. There’s a trait in the Mesmer tree that creates a clone when they dodge roll so if you see them roll and a clone pops out it’s always not them.

Looking for the Mesmer is hunting down the one that is always moving around. Clones always stand still except when they run towards you to shatter. If you see 3 clones running towards you, dodge roll when they get close.

If you’re constantly on top of the Mesmer they have very little ways to get you off them.

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