Guild Wars 2

I know i need valor and virtues, but honestly non of the other lines are looking that much better than the others, i don’t want to take radiance but i feel like i need the blind. I want to take zeal, but i feel like it’s not complete. Is medi guard going to be dead or am i just over reacting. If somebody could make a decent trait set up and give me reasons why it is good i would appreciate it greatly.

Medi guard isn’t dead, calm down. Any of Zeal, Radiance, and Honor are still gonna be viable (although Honor nowhere near what it used to be). Smiter’s Boon is a big buff, don’t overlook that- not to mention how strong we’ve been against other power builds.

Secondly, virtues tree is getting a huge buff. Extra stunbreaker, and the CDs will now be:
Justice 21.25
Resolve 42.5
Courage 63.75

The nerfs compared to what they said they’d be giving us are unfair, but at the most they should dissuade players looking to play medi as a flavor-of-the-month build.

I just don’t feel like radiance or zeal are giving me the bang for the buck i need, like take justice is blind and move it to a zeal grandmaster trait and the build would be complete.

Zeal vs. Radiance is a pretty close call, before today I was saying Radiance all the way, but then it took two very, very nasty hits. That’ll have to be determined in game, and Honor has inched its way back into the discussion, in my book at least.

Based on how the changes are looking for the specs, I would wager that it’s actually the dev’s intention to spread the relative trait strengths around. Looks like it will work. Depending on the weapons I want to use, some of the lines are looking like tradeoffs instead of meta now. Might encourage a more dynamic play to make the most effective players benefit from their approach.

HOT can’t get here quick enough, dragonhunter looks way better than zeal or radiance imho.

Sadly, you might be right on Dragonhunter. I don’t want to see Zeal or Radiance phased out before they even had a chance in the meta, which is why I’m salty.

I honestly think that dragonhunter is why we we’re nerfed.

finalhero.4028:

I honestly think that dragonhunter is why we we’re nerfed.

Why? DragonHunter traits are terrible. Unless they nerfed our core traits to try and make DragonHunter seem better, an incredibly lazy move if that is the case. They needed to buff DragonHunter significantly, now the entire profession suffers because the devs were lazy.

ventusthunder.5067:

Zeal vs. Radiance is a pretty close call, before today I was saying Radiance all the way, but then it took two very, very nasty hits. That’ll have to be determined in game, and Honor has inched its way back into the discussion, in my book at least.

2?

my 2/5/6/0/1 build just lost 23% +dmg baseline and then all of the Vuln on Blind, which could hit another +15%.

Builds been gutted.

GG.

Amins.3710:

ventusthunder.5067:

Zeal vs. Radiance is a pretty close call, before today I was saying Radiance all the way, but then it took two very, very nasty hits. That’ll have to be determined in game, and Honor has inched its way back into the discussion, in my book at least.

2?

my 2/5/6/0/1 build just lost 23% +dmg.

GG.

More than that, if you count the vulnerability you’ll no longer get from blinds. All of my hopes for the spec changes on guardian are now dead.

Arnath.2319:

finalhero.4028:

I honestly think that dragonhunter is why we we’re nerfed.

Why? DragonHunter traits are terrible.

If the other traits are bad, Dragonhunter doesn’t look as bad in comparison. </tinfoil hat>

Still having the same issue with my medi build where I want to go into zeal, radiance, honour, and virtues. Mind you, honour is only for the medi trait, I don’t care about too much else in there. Guess I’ll just have to find out what works best.

But that litany buff, amirite? Eh? Eh?

I agree that it does not look great at this point, but I don’t think saying X build is now broken is the right approach. The meta game board is being kicked over and I think we need to start over with no assumptions and find new builds.

I have 5 Guardians, I’m not giving up easily.

I’m definitely looking forward to these changes from a pvp medi guard point of view using the radiance, valor and virtue lines. From the changes just in Valor you now get the following that weren’t previously available/used.

- Smiter’s boon: Extra healing when used with Monks focus + more dps burst.
- Monks Focus: Now being a combination of all previous Meditation traits allows Strength in numbers to be taken in the Master line, providing significant bulk to the group/oneself plus having fury on demand.

I admit it is a bit of a blow for hammer uses with the glacial heart move but I’d argue this was just a lucky proc chance bonus to begin with and not something that was vital to a build.

I’m personally going to try out radiance mainly for the blind, but interestingly we now get a 10% crit chance increase against burning foes (should be very high up time in pvp), and 15% crit chance increase if using a 1 handed weapon. This plus the 4% base crit chance and the sigil of accuracy providing another 7% means our modified crit chance with no precision is 36%. 56% with fury (meditations will give this on demand). This much crit chance from without using precision may open up the possibility to use bulkier amulets such as solider or celestial. Providing a much bulkier guardian with very good offensive capability.

Lastly from a spvp perspective, the reduced virtue cooldowns is a really big buff with little downside considering team mates are rarely out of the 600 range when fighting on point.

At any rate the new traits shown in the latest live stream guts a few builds.

The damage output potential of guardians also seems to be lower (as much as 20% if not more) over all unless your using a mace/hammer and the enemy is stupid enough to stand still in your symbols.

Even then the damage is roughly similar to what can be achieved now with a sword/greatsword build (which has much greater mobility)

Zeal line just got put on steroids, but unless your using signets trying to take radience as a zerker is basicly shooting yourself in teh foot

http://dulfy.net/gw2traits#build=AgIBaAO4Bbw~

Here you have a build with Zeal / Valor / Virtutes.

Hammer / GS Medi Guard. Just look at it. So much synergys in it. Shatterd Aegis is such a good trade on power guards now, bc it crits for 3k dmg. just think about this in groops, you can give it to your m8’s as a stunbreaker, and the moment it ends, you also get retaliation. the enemy will hurt himself so much, and you didnt even start doing your dps. i feel like this will be a nice build

We need to start a petition to change our class dev.

Ragnarox.9601:

We need to start a petition to change our class dev.

Robert Gee for Guardian 2015 pls.