Guild Wars 2

What has higher single-target DPS? Wand or Greatsword?

Some people tell me Wand is stronger because of Smite, then I see videos like this…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8W38rEAFY9U

I’m also trying to decide between Meteorlogicus and Twilight, and that decision rests on whichever weapon is better single-target DPS in Dungeons.

What do you think?

1h Sword.

/15chars

the scepter has the highest single target dps. However:

1) Auto attack will often miss targets that are moving
2) Smite’s damage is divided amongst all targets within its range ( whereas Whirling Wrath the damage is more-or-less multiplied by the number of targets in range )
3) Smite’s damage area is static and mobs can move out of it
4) Scepter’s immobilize is ineffective against alot of targets with defiance/stability

If you know you are facing a stationary single mob with a large hitbox, then it’s a good choice

as K U T M says, the 1 hand sword has more reliable sustained dps than anything else in the guardian inventory

Tarsius.3170:

4) Scepter’s immobilize is ineffective against alot of targets with defiance/stability

I don’t think defiance and stability work against immobolize. Chains of Light also applies vulnerability.

So the Wand is stronger than Greatsword versus single targets?

How does he accomplish such high damage in the video then?

Farzo.8410:

Tarsius.3170:

4) Scepter’s immobilize is ineffective against alot of targets with defiance/stability

I don’t think defiance and stability work against immobolize. Chains of Light also applies vulnerability.

Sorry, I just mean that alot of mobs are completely resistant to immobilize ( but good point on the vulnerability )

Kain Francois.4328:

So the Wand is stronger than Greatsword versus single targets?

How does he accomplish such high damage in the video then?

The difference is the way Whirling Wrath’s damage is shown.

The final number it shows is the total amount the entire channel has done, not the last individual hit, versus the way Smite shows its damage, where the damage from each hit is shown individually.

You have to factor in channel time, cooldown times, and total damage to figure it out, which I’m sure has already been done somewhere on this forum.

iirc If you were to have every buff + max damage stats in the game then you could theoretically pull about 50k damage per cast out of WW and Smite would be around 70k ( against 2.6k tougness opponent ).

But against multiple targets WW would do massively more dps and ideal scenarios are pretty much impossible to achieve in real play.

Thanks guys. Decided I will go for Meteorlogicus instead of Twilight on my Guardian!

Tarsius.3170:

Good luck!

lol @ that pic

Tarsius.3170 and his 15charrs win teh thread.

Now we just have to hope Smite isn’t ever nerfed…

Zerole.7306:

Tarsius.3170:

Good luck!

lol @ that pic

I get the feeling that post was only created just to use that picture on something.
Just me?

As the OP, I declare this thread officially about Tarsius.3170’s picture! ;D

Zach.3264:

Zerole.7306:

Tarsius.3170:

Good luck!

lol @ that pic

I get the feeling that post was only created just to use that picture on something.
Just me?

Holy Hell, that vid, chicks play this game?!

Also notice how that team was coordinated to have 20+ stacks of Might. With that much Might, and I assume the Guardian had the Signet for passive power (am I wrong?) he is able to do crazy damage.

In PvE against like world bosses I rock the Scepter because rarely do bosses move out of Smite radius, and are often large enough to eat every hit (target size matters too).

Add in Vulnerability and Scepter has the potential…but it’s niche is harder to fill that that of the Greatsword (imo)

Zach.3264:

Zerole.7306:

Tarsius.3170:

Good luck!

lol @ that pic

I get the feeling that post was only created just to use that picture on something.
Just me?

hah, I wouldn’t be surprised by myself if that were the case – but it’s more likely I just hit the char limit once too often and “snapped” ( and I happened to have GIMP open ) ;-)

MercenaryK.4180:

Holy Hell, that vid, chicks play this game?!

My girlfriend got me into this game.

Yes, that’s all I came to say. Bye.

GS 2-4-2

Swap

Sword Auto

Swap

Repeat

???

Profit

MercenaryK.4180:

Holy Hell, that vid, chicks play this game?!

Hi there.

Kain Francois.4328:

What has higher single-target DPS? Wand or Greatsword?

Some people tell me Wand is stronger because of Smite, then I see videos like this…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8W38rEAFY9U

I’m also trying to decide between Meteorlogicus and Twilight, and that decision rests on whichever weapon is better single-target DPS in Dungeons.

What do you think?

GS is more useful in dungeons. WW can hit more than 9x if in the target’kittenbox. It’s useful for bursting then swap to sword auto and repeat or there if you need a pull. I can’t think of much I would use a scepter for anymore other than Ashym when he gets around 50% or there is an aoe near him.

Here is another vid I made
http://youtu.be/U67QNskKYHs

obal.3218:

Here is another vid I made
http://youtu.be/U67QNskKYHs

awesome! – and thanks for confirming my Maths wasn’t too far out with the 50k theoretical max.
I made the calc before ascended weapons were introduced so you might be able to push higher with all-crits and possibly the 200 power on-kill food if there’s another handy mob nearby.
I didn’t now you could stack 2 frost spirits using the trait, nice

Kain Francois.4328:

So the Wand is stronger than Greatsword versus single targets?

Wand is stronger if the target is like a dumb bird that doesn’t move out of the way of a truck, and big enough to for all Smite’kittens to land successfully.