Guild Wars 2

If I were to change a certain signet * cough* Signet of Wrath * cough* to change passive to 25% speed same as thieves and rangers please do… I know alot of guardians don’t run with staff and retreat would understand this…..

If we’re doing this.. might as well strip the speed passives on all classes and just buff regular movement speed.. get my drift?..

Tell me about it. hate being forced to use a staff just to move around the world like most every other class.

I would be perfectly happy using staff and retreat, except Anet intentionally broke swiftness staking on staff a long time ago

I think between staff, save yourself, and retreat, we’re fine. Personal opinion.

Guardian is probably the last class in the game that should get a move speed signet.

Why not do that and give us some stealth too!

As previously stated…boon duration runes with Retreat and staff 3 is plenty already…

Loxsus.3841:

I think between staff, save yourself, and retreat, we’re fine. Personal opinion.

Agree…we’re plenty fast. Mostly I run, Hammer & Mace / Shield shout guardian in wvw. Traited for 20% less on shout cd’s. I get around just fine.

We also have a wtf pwn 1200 range teleport. That helps a lot already

Guards do NOT need a passive speed buff. I already get between 10 and 11.5 seconds swiftness out of every 12. That’s fine.

yeah… as much as our mobility is crap outside of a horrible utility and a support weapon, I would much prefer some snares so we might be actually able to kill something while roaming every once and a while.

Personally I would prefer another Virtue. I do think giving Signet of Wrath passive movement speed would be great, but I also agree that if we gave Guardians passive movement speed then Mesmers, Engineers and Warriors would need it also. Plus it also forces you to give up a Utility slot.

I would prefer if we got Virtue of Celerity added as our F4 and its passive gave 15% movement speed to all nearby allies. Active would cure Immobilize, Cripple and Snare to all allies. The passive would give allies the option to not take the 25% movement speed Signet and it would give solo Guardians some roaming potential. The lower value would also not threaten those with Signets.

Inspired Virtue would have to give Speed Boost like that of Engineers. This would give Guardians a charge or flee tool.

Yes, change there damage reduction signet to movement speed please.

Daecollo.9578:

Yes, change there damage reduction signet to movement speed please.

…. No, hell no, you leave the damage reduction signet alone, that thing is amazing. 10% straight damage reduction, retal on allies and weakness on enemies on use on a short cd… I do not believe there is a better signet in the game other than maybe warrior elite which has a useless passive.

Wow, that was a terrible suggestion Daecollo.

How about changing the Wrath signet to a boon signet? Either maybe a flat % bonus to all boons on the guardian in general or a bonus to duration. Active could be boon rip.

Daecollo.9578:

Yes, change there damage reduction signet to movement speed please.

I think you meant the condition damage one?

Signet Passive: + run speed
Signet Active: Snares target; lose run speed bonus.

I’d be all for having a passive movement speed increase on a signet. It’s a pain not having permanent swiftness and trying to keep up with your group in wvw as it seems as if everyone has a constant speed boost.

To be honest, I don’t think Guardian need a passive speed signet, but every other profession should have their passive speed removed.

Actually, they do. Yes you can rune for boon duration or take Retreat, SY + a staff… The latter which i actually do but if you do any other build/setup you cannot keep up with the zerg and other professions do not have this disadvantage.

That said, there are 2 more issues that need to be fixed before this, scepter auto + zeal trait line. Much much much more important.

I disagree. I don’t believe the heavy classes should get a passive speed signet. Just medium and light classes.

Sandra Martino.3870:

Actually, they do. Yes you can rune for boon duration or take Retreat, SY + a staff… The latter which i actually do but if you do any other build/setup you cannot keep up with the zerg and other professions do not have this disadvantage.

That said, there are 2 more issues that need to be fixed before this, scepter auto + zeal trait line. Much much much more important.

I only ever need staff to keep up with a zerg, and sometimes not even that. Most zergs are pretty good at keeping up swiftness on people. The key is making sure not to end up in a tail of the leading commander.

Bash.7291:

Sandra Martino.3870:

Actually, they do. Yes you can rune for boon duration or take Retreat, SY + a staff… The latter which i actually do but if you do any other build/setup you cannot keep up with the zerg and other professions do not have this disadvantage.

That said, there are 2 more issues that need to be fixed before this, scepter auto + zeal trait line. Much much much more important.

I only ever need staff to keep up with a zerg, and sometimes not only that. Most zergs are pretty good at keeping up swiftness on people. The key is making sure not to end up in a tail of the leading commander.

^ This

I’ve never had a need for a speed signet.

I just read it and I’m shocked a little bit. Do not be offended, but …
Anyone who whines that guardian need (REALY NEED) speed signet, and even more so that the guardian(!) utility(!) is crap(!) (OMG) and ask to change the 10% damage reduction on speed signet of (what you smoking there?) – In my personal opinion – curved handed noob. Play another class, I beg you. You understood nothing that Guardian good at.

To be honest, I don’t think Guardian need a passive speed signet, but every other profession should have their passive speed removed.

As a guardian and mesmer player, i’m totally in for this
(My sig says i play thief but i usually take him out about once a month, get bored and switch back to my other classes)