What is guardian "Supposed" to do

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Posted by: Hostility.4961

Hostility.4961

I gave you the wrong link, check again. Or you just didn’t watch the whole thing. Some is hotjoin, some is Spvp. He was taking 2v1 in both. Sometimes 3v1.

So yeah, that does take skill, and yeah zerker guardians are quite strong if you know what you’re doing.

Also, it doesn’t matter if it’s hotjoin or spvp, everyone wears the same lvl gear..

There’s a huge difference between hotjoin and teamq/soloq. Hotjoin players are generally unskilled, most of them just want to get their dailies done, or just have some fun. Playing zerker guard at higher levels of play is a lot more difficult then that video implies, you’re not going to be doing 2v1 against competent players. This is an older video of mine from the beginning of the year it’s all tpvp, and as you can tell it’s not all butterflies and sunshine.

I already went over that fact that at least half of the matches shown in the video I linked was either soloq or teamq. No one is going to win 1v2 or 1v3 against players of equivalent skill regardless of what class or build they’re using.. That’s not the point. The point is a zerker guardian is capable of fishing out a ton of damage and has enough utilities to stay alive while doing so. The point is that it’s a viable build and certainly not underpowered.

I’d go as far as to say that none of those clips are from tpvp, first clip is Capricorn, and there are also 8v8 matches. All the 5v5 matches could have easily been hotjoin because there are 5v5 hotjoin servers fyi. The point is linking videos like that to prove a point is useless. Anyone can go into a hotjoin match, and do what he did. However doing what he did against competent players or against higher skill players won’t happen.

Sure dps medi guard is a viable spec, however there’s a big reason why you don’t see them used in higher levels of play, the last tourney was a prefect example of this.

Ya Heavens Rage, that 3rd match EU vs NA was such an eye opener for me. Especially the devs commentary.

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Posted by: ArchonWing.9480

ArchonWing.9480

And yet I never see a warrior run a shoutsheal in pvp. The damage output of a shoutheal warrior who only heals (no party wide protection or aegis or stability or anything else; save for their warhorn skill)) is so bad that it’s not worth running. You also need to grab cleansing ire in the defense line (which is a far better trait line) which leaves no investment into a damage tree.

It’s fine in wvw, but guardians still do that role better and maintain more damage while doing so.

Relentliss.2170

Or 1vZerg… I’ve never seen a Guardian do what this guy does. And BTW I do realise this is an old video. One doesn’t need 11k self heals when you regen more damage than a Zerg does to you.

Are you serious? Since when does two people = zerg. And we know nothing of the builds /armor they were using to attack him with. And I know the damageless build the warrior was using wouldn’t be able to kill them, either.

Maybe 1.5 people = zerg? Autoattack axe ranger /w no poison, lol. (Wait is that a power ranger?) Would struggle to beat a sentry.

I wish my comp wasn’t crap so I could cherry pick scenarios where I can look OP. Shrug off 2 people while having a thief doing their stupid heartseeker is pretty standard on my engie.

I mean, I understand the issues with warrior heal and this warrior probably wins a lot, but that video isn’t a telling example.. I’ve come across unkillable rangers, warriors, guardians, eles, mesmers, and engies. Vit tough too stronk.

PS I get the point, I just think it’s funny. Medi guardians were buffed for a reason.

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for there you have been and there you will long to return.

(edited by ArchonWing.9480)

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Posted by: loseridoit.2756

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And yet I never see a warrior run a shoutsheal in pvp. The damage output of a shoutheal warrior who only heals (no party wide protection or aegis or stability or anything else; save for their warhorn skill)) is so bad that it’s not worth running. You also need to grab cleansing ire in the defense line (which is a far better trait line) which leaves no investment into a damage tree.

It’s fine in wvw, but guardians still do that role better and maintain more damage while doing so.

Relentliss.2170

Or 1vZerg… I’ve never seen a Guardian do what this guy does. And BTW I do realise this is an old video. One doesn’t need 11k self heals when you regen more damage than a Zerg does to you.

Are you serious? Since when does two people = zerg. And we know nothing of the builds /armor they were using to attack him with. And I know the damageless build the warrior was using wouldn’t be able to kill them, either.

Maybe 1.5 people = zerg? Autoattack axe ranger /w no poison, lol. (Wait is that a power ranger?) Would struggle to beat a sentry.

I wish my comp wasn’t crap so I could cherry pick scenarios where I can look OP. Shrug off 2 people while having a thief doing their stupid heartseeker is pretty standard on my engie.

I mean, I understand the issues with warrior heal and this warrior probably wins a lot, but that video isn’t a telling example.. I’ve come across unkillable rangers, warriors, guardians, eles, mesmers, and engies. Vit tough too stronk.

PS I get the point, I just think it’s funny. Medi guardians were buffed for a reason.

I have to say that mesmer is not build and geared properly. sharper images should proc on crit much more often.

funny video.

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Posted by: Swimsasa Stoon.8936

Swimsasa Stoon.8936

Greatsword-signet, soldier amulet… heal on dodge, sigil of energy etc.