What's currently the highest dps build?
The only reason to take Torch on Guardian in any situation is because your group is terrible and you need even MORE condition removal or your group is terrible and you need self-burning for Fury with Inner Fire. Focus 4 applies Vulnerability / Regen and removes conditions. Focus 5 has 3 blocks and hits very hard.
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torch does not burn self….no fury, well known since beginning of time.
stopping to cast focus 4 would probably be a dps loss, not worth it for the blind/vulnerability, focus 5 is ok, but not a huge dps gain because of the length of cooldown outweighs to burst is can do.
Torch 4 secondary cast is at least useable on a frequent enough cooldown to contribute to the fight, but cast time on that one too, so unsure if its a gain or loss.
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Wow. Torch 4 actually doesn’t give you Fury. So there’s actually no reason to use Torch at all.
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It is “supposed” to be the dps off hand.
- Provides frontal condition removal
- Burning on up to 3 melee range targets
- Minor burst attacks
Problem is, it is usually a dps loss to cast any of those things unless you are using mace.
Sword you are better off with auto attack and scepter just cycle 1 and 2 on cooldown, 3 is pretty quick and provides vulnerability so it shouldn’t hurt to use that too.
Best reason to use torch is burning to apply 10% from conditions and/or burning. IF you need that.
Your other options are shield which is purely defensive and focus, which is a sort of mix of offensive and defensive but still more defensive than torch.
The 3 block is nice as it has no cast time and wont interrupt auto attacks while helping to provide blocks that allow you to take the next 3 hits to maintain dps.
Virtue of Justice and Purging Flames will pretty much allow you to keep a boss permanently burned. You can get condition removal easily enough in traits as well. I’ve had some cool ideas with Torch, I’m just not sure if they are worth implementing.
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Out of all the weapons in the Guardian Arsenal, the torch is the only one that I find myself leaving in the bank (though, I usually bring it anyway.. cause why not). I can use every weapon in SOME situation, but the torch … it just isn’t attractive compared to the alternatives. Focus covers damage and condition removal more consistently and without sacrificing DPS. Focus #5 can be activated, managed, and detonated without interrupting auto attacks.
Torch has some mild potential, but the cast on #5 is detrimental to DPS while its condition removal isn’t reliable (relatively speaking.) The torch #4 ability can hit hard, but comparing its damage and utility to focus #5 or of focus #4 leaves me discouraged. I would say it would take some increase in either damage, duration (in the case of torch #4’s initial cast), or effect in order for this weapon to be considered in more situations.
If you’re in a group that doesn’t help with Burning Torch4 is the ticket unless you want to use skills to help. If there’s no need for extra Burning then yea Focus takes the lead. T4 is a dps increase but its very slight. Traited torch gives the extra burn duration but not sure if it actually kicks in with our short duration burns.
Also, I used torch during my testing to keep burning up as I was testing solo.
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i think when playing in PvP/WvW, the torch has its place. i’ll run around with it in PvE to rack up weapon master kills right now but peobably wouldn’t take it into dungeons or fractals.
i WILL say though, it has amazing burst potential. pair it up with focus, time it and followed by a well executed mace 3 and you can do amazing burst on one target, the lucky one that gets hit by torch 4, as well as AoE burst, pretty much at the same time.
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i think when playing in PvP/WvW, the torch has its place. i’ll run around with it in PvE to rack up weapon master kills right now but peobably wouldn’t take it into dungeons or fractals.
i WILL say though, it has amazing burst potential. pair it up with focus, time it and followed by a well executed mace 3 and you can do amazing burst on one target, the lucky one that gets hit by torch 4, as well as AoE burst, pretty much at the same time.
That was a pain in the kitten to finish.
Quick side question, I always use 5 points in honor for the vigor on crit with my dps builds. I just find in places like CoE i cannot maintain my dodges so i tend to have run 10/30/0/5/25 or something close to that. Is there something else we can do to gain vigor? i do not want it on my weapons or runes. Can a combo field give vigor?
Converting bleeds into boons gives vigor. Having vigor on crit is something most players take. Means you wont need energy sigils for soloing lupi, so you can keep dps sigils equipped.
Quick side question, I always use 5 points in honor for the vigor on crit with my dps builds. I just find in places like CoE i cannot maintain my dodges so i tend to have run 10/30/0/5/25 or something close to that. Is there something else we can do to gain vigor? i do not want it on my weapons or runes. Can a combo field give vigor?
There is +40% endurance regen food ( which also gives 1 stack of Might on dodge ) which you can use if you’re having a hard time maintaining Vigor.
Be aware that Vigor doesn’t stack with any other sources of endurance regen ( it’s capped at +100% ) – so if you can already keep vigor going most of the time, having the food too would be a waste.
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