I do use Retreat a lot, it can work especially well with Unscathed Contender as it is our longest duration on demand Aegis. However, reason a signet or a trait is still better for movement bonus is that they can be changed at will before combat, whereas you have to actually activate Retreat for speed bonus. It may look minor, but if you play Guardian for a long time it starts to be annoying.
You would have ground to make a point if 7 out of 9 classes didn’t have access to +25% movement speed, with Rev getting perma swiftness instead. There’s nothing about guardian’s identity that makes it the most slow class.
only 2 classes need a signet for 25% movement and thats necro (who all run warhorn) and thief (who have 400% [literally] uptime with dash). except eles but they get a lot of swiftness passively, though not permanently.
therefore its basically just guardian with no swiftness.
You would have ground to make a point if 7 out of 9 classes didn’t have access to +25% movement speed, with Rev getting perma swiftness instead. There’s nothing about guardian’s identity that makes it the most slow class.
Well, there is … Guardian’s identity defined by Anet.
retreat is 33% movement speed for 20sec+ … why should we get a passive 25% speed?
we have quite some leaps and teleports to targets as well… we already have alot of run away capable classes, guardian was designed to stay in combat, as much other classes can still have more surviability for that…
1st April joke, when gw2 receives a “balance” update.
retreat is 33% movement speed for 20sec+ … why should we get a passive 25% speed?
we have quite some leaps and teleports to targets as well… we already have alot of run away capable classes, guardian was designed to stay in combat, as much other classes can still have more surviability for that…
But I want to run a full trap DH with a passive 25% speed buff in one of my chosen traitlines and it doesn’t interfere with any of my choices, because chrono got it.
/sarcasm
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lel….. indeed, many players want to be carried more than the game already carries alot of players with the actual damage output gimmick + low effort skills.
Well… out staff skills could get a small QoL :P stop to stack speed is idiotic at minimal
1st April joke, when gw2 receives a “balance” update.
lel….. indeed, many players want to be carried more than the game already carries alot of players with the actual damage output gimmick + low effort skills.
Well… out staff skills could get a small QoL :P stop to stack speed is idiotic at minimal
After the edition of mobility combo fields, with Heart of Thorns, I always thought Symbol of Swiftness should be a candidate for guardians mobile field. No more having to stop for swiftness stacking.
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You would have ground to make a point if 7 out of 9 classes didn’t have access to +25% movement speed, with Rev getting perma swiftness instead. There’s nothing about guardian’s identity that makes it the most slow class.
Well, there is … Guardian’s identity defined by Anet.
Because Guards already have a ton of swiftness applying skills.
" a ton" are you kidding me? there is actually 1 skill with swiftness, 2 skills if u have a staff….
You’re forgetting “Save Yourselves” plus there’s a trait called Honorable Staff which increases boon duration if equipping a staff. But let me ask this, why why wouldn’t you have a staff equipped? It’s not like World Completion will suffer because you carry a Staff and swiftness is useless in a combat situation in my opinion anyway.
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Because Guards already have a ton of swiftness applying skills.
" a ton" are you kidding me? there is actually 1 skill with swiftness, 2 skills if u have a staff….
You’re forgetting “Save Yourselves” plus there’s a trait called Honorable Staff which increases boon duration if equipping a staff. But let me ask this, why why wouldn’t you have a staff equipped? It’s not like World Completion will suffer because you carry a Staff and swiftness is useless in a combat situation in my opinion anyway.
people want to get stuff w/o actually trait or use weapon for it, altough swiftness on staff needs a very small QoL.
if we all added the list of stuff we wanted w/o actually get the right weapon or traitline.,… this would end like the revenant forum… lol
1st April joke, when gw2 receives a “balance” update.
You would have ground to make a point if 7 out of 9 classes didn’t have access to +25% movement speed, with Rev getting perma swiftness instead. There’s nothing about guardian’s identity that makes it the most slow class.
Well, there is … Guardian’s identity defined by Anet.
Citation needed
Not really … Anet devs create the Guardian concept according to what they want. I mean, what else would they do?
But if you are unsure if Anet creates the game according to their ideas, well, go check up on Ready up # … 13 I think? Explains well why Guardians don’t have 25% RS buff, straight from the devs own mouths on video. I’m guessing you will find a way to say it’s not relevant, considering you don’t seem to think Anet defines the class as they see fit in the first place.
You would have ground to make a point if 7 out of 9 classes didn’t have access to +25% movement speed, with Rev getting perma swiftness instead. There’s nothing about guardian’s identity that makes it the most slow class.
Well, there is … Guardian’s identity defined by Anet.
Citation needed
Not really … Anet devs create the Guardian concept according to what they want. I mean, what else would they do?
But if you are unsure if Anet creates the game according to their ideas, well, go check up on Ready up # … 13 I think? Explains well why Guardians don’t have 25% RS buff, straight from the devs own mouths on video. I’m guessing you will find a way to say it’s not relevant, considering you don’t seem to think Anet defines the class as they see fit in the first place.
You are not an Anet developer. You do not speak for Anet in any way or form.
When you come and claim that this is part of the Guardian identity, and I’m asking for proof, I’m not doubting Anet, I’m doubting you.
So, don’t talk to me in a condescending tone, yours is just one more opinion, like everyone else’s, do not presume you talk for the game developers.
You would have ground to make a point if 7 out of 9 classes didn’t have access to +25% movement speed, with Rev getting perma swiftness instead. There’s nothing about guardian’s identity that makes it the most slow class.
Well, there is … Guardian’s identity defined by Anet.
Citation needed
Not really … Anet devs create the Guardian concept according to what they want. I mean, what else would they do?
But if you are unsure if Anet creates the game according to their ideas, well, go check up on Ready up # … 13 I think? Explains well why Guardians don’t have 25% RS buff, straight from the devs own mouths on video. I’m guessing you will find a way to say it’s not relevant, considering you don’t seem to think Anet defines the class as they see fit in the first place.
You are not an Anet developer. You do not speak for Anet in any way or form.
When you come and claim that this is part of the Guardian identity, and I’m asking for proof, I’m not doubting Anet, I’m doubting you.
So, don’t talk to me in a condescending tone, yours is just one more opinion, like everyone else’s, do not presume you talk for the game developers.
Omg that obtena dude is still here hahaha dont argue with him hes just flaming you.
You would have ground to make a point if 7 out of 9 classes didn’t have access to +25% movement speed, with Rev getting perma swiftness instead. There’s nothing about guardian’s identity that makes it the most slow class.
Well, there is … Guardian’s identity defined by Anet.
Citation needed
Not really … Anet devs create the Guardian concept according to what they want. I mean, what else would they do?
But if you are unsure if Anet creates the game according to their ideas, well, go check up on Ready up # … 13 I think? Explains well why Guardians don’t have 25% RS buff, straight from the devs own mouths on video. I’m guessing you will find a way to say it’s not relevant, considering you don’t seem to think Anet defines the class as they see fit in the first place.
You are not an Anet developer. You do not speak for Anet in any way or form.
When you come and claim that this is part of the Guardian identity, and I’m asking for proof, I’m not doubting Anet, I’m doubting you.
The proof is in a past Ready up video … that you could have found yourself if you were as interested as you claim you are about ‘proof’. As I said, directly from the devs mouths … you can see their mouths moving and everything, it’s not dubbed. Of course, You didn’t look very hard …
New PvP-only Rune: Rune of the Lynx: +175 power, +100 Condition Damage, +25% Movement Speed
We’re looking to add a viable damage-oriented movement speed rune to help professions with minimal access to in-combat movement speed or swiftness. This may impact match pacing, so we’re going to keep a close eye on it.
