Would like to see changes to Shield's 5 skill

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Posted by: Khallis.5708

Khallis.5708

personally i find it kinda useless and would rather have a Block of some sort on it than a bubble. my idea is ..

Fortification (or insert some other defensive oriented name) the guardian readies his shield for a major attack, completely concentrates on defending against this blow.

channels a block for 4 seconds blocking ALL attacks, the guardian moves much much slower (or can be rooted for balance purposes) any attacks blocked heal the guardian and all allies near the guardian (based on the damage amount blocked).

thoughts?

feel free to add your own.

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Posted by: SiNoS.2147

SiNoS.2147

Personally between the heal it does and the ranged projectile protection this single skill has saved me and my parties many times. Its just about timing and knowing when it needs to be used.

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Posted by: Syhnz.4928

Syhnz.4928

actually the 5 skill is pretty amazing when used at cluth moments it gives us breathing room, and upon blowin up heals nearby allies…still dont kno if it heals us but its good all it would need would be

1.lower Cooldown
2.apply protection to the guardian and vulnerability to enemies who where pushed out
3.do like the ascalonian fighters…u kno block ALL incoming attacks while channeled and burn enemy attackers xD

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Posted by: kousei.5914

kousei.5914

Agree with sinos and syhnz. SoA is an amazing skill and one of my favorites. If you’re using it for only the bubble, you’re only scratching the surface of the utility of this skill.

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Posted by: Syhnz.4928

Syhnz.4928

Bump this thread if you’ve used your shield 5 to knock someone down to their deaths

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Posted by: Eveningstar.6940

Eveningstar.6940

Shield of Absorption:

Detonate for a moderate heal on everyone inside.
Activate Combo Field: Light for condition removal and widespread retaliation.
Interrupt enemy casts.
Knock back enemies.
Absorb any ranged attacks, including (I think?) cones.

Not bad. The long cooldown does hurt, but I think what makes Shield of Absorption particularly odd is that it appears on a shield.

A shield that has no Block function whatsoever. I really think Shield of Absorption should switch places with Shield of Wrath from Focus.

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Posted by: SiNoS.2147

SiNoS.2147

Shield of Absorption:

Detonate for a moderate heal on everyone inside.
Activate Combo Field: Light for condition removal and widespread retaliation.
Interrupt enemy casts.
Knock back enemies.
Absorb any ranged attacks, including (I think?) cones.

Not bad. The long cooldown does hurt, but I think what makes Shield of Absorption particularly odd is that it appears on a shield.

A shield that has no Block function whatsoever. I really think Shield of Absorption should switch places with Shield of Wrath from Focus.

Havent tested SoA in a few days but last i know it dident absorb all ranged attack’s as ele blasted right threw it with there auto attack. Only thing it absorbed was ranged projectiles like arrows and bullets.

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Posted by: Eveningstar.6940

Eveningstar.6940

Shield of Absorption:

Detonate for a moderate heal on everyone inside.
Activate Combo Field: Light for condition removal and widespread retaliation.
Interrupt enemy casts.
Knock back enemies.
Absorb any ranged attacks, including (I think?) cones.

Not bad. The long cooldown does hurt, but I think what makes Shield of Absorption particularly odd is that it appears on a shield.

A shield that has no Block function whatsoever. I really think Shield of Absorption should switch places with Shield of Wrath from Focus.

Havent tested SoA in a few days but last i know it dident absorb all ranged attack’s as ele blasted right threw it with there auto attack. Only thing it absorbed was ranged projectiles like arrows and bullets.

Thanks for the confirm. I could’ve sworn it works on cone attacks too, like Drake breaths, but I guess not.

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Posted by: SiNoS.2147

SiNoS.2147

Shield of Absorption:

Detonate for a moderate heal on everyone inside.
Activate Combo Field: Light for condition removal and widespread retaliation.
Interrupt enemy casts.
Knock back enemies.
Absorb any ranged attacks, including (I think?) cones.

Not bad. The long cooldown does hurt, but I think what makes Shield of Absorption particularly odd is that it appears on a shield.

A shield that has no Block function whatsoever. I really think Shield of Absorption should switch places with Shield of Wrath from Focus.

Havent tested SoA in a few days but last i know it dident absorb all ranged attack’s as ele blasted right threw it with there auto attack. Only thing it absorbed was ranged projectiles like arrows and bullets.

Thanks for the confirm. I could’ve sworn it works on cone attacks too, like Drake breaths, but I guess not.

Eh im not confirming it as like i said been a few days since i’ve had to use the skill. But i know it still dident block ele attacks after they fixed its heal ability. It may have been patched again to absorb all ranged now.

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Posted by: IsilZha.3608

IsilZha.3608

Shield of Absorption:

Detonate for a moderate heal on everyone inside.
Activate Combo Field: Light for condition removal and widespread retaliation.
Interrupt enemy casts.
Knock back enemies.
Absorb any ranged attacks, including (I think?) cones.

Not bad. The long cooldown does hurt, but I think what makes Shield of Absorption particularly odd is that it appears on a shield.

A shield that has no Block function whatsoever. I really think Shield of Absorption should switch places with Shield of Wrath from Focus.

Yeah, before even reading these forums, I was thinking in-game “Shield of Wrath from the focus should really be on the shield, and SoA should be on the focus.”

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Posted by: Sajid.9708

Sajid.9708

Not to mention Guardians get the 40 second aegis, or 30 if traited, from Virtue of Courage.

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Posted by: Strenif.4935

Strenif.4935

My only problem with this skill is after first half second the bubble can be walked through even while you’re channeling. I always evade roll right after I cast it because there is no point channeling it.

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Posted by: Razor.9132

Razor.9132

I think the skill is perfectly fine and has literally tons of uses.

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Posted by: Ynna.8769

Ynna.8769

As pointed out: the skill is amazing and doesn’t need changing, apart from the fact that it works differently in PvE from PvP.

My only problem with this skill is after first half second the bubble can be walked through even while you’re channeling. I always evade roll right after I cast it because there is no point channeling it.

Working as intended. It’s actually meant to stop projectiles. The knockback is a bonus.

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Posted by: Red Falcon.8257

Red Falcon.8257

It’s ok.
Fits group support greatly with the bullet-proof shield, knockback AND heal.

My only complaint on shield skill is the long CD even when traited.

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Posted by: thiagoperne.7340

thiagoperne.7340

It needs to make it like Sanctuary. “Foes” and projectiles cannot enter.

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Posted by: Braillor.9263

Braillor.9263

I feel like the shield goes well with the scepter, as my shield 4 has a nice range when kiting and my shield 5 is good for pushing people away from me, then allowing me to use scepter 3 to root people after they are pushed back. The focus seems more suitable for melee to go with my mace so I would suggest switching the focus and shield abilities with one another.

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Posted by: SiNoS.2147

SiNoS.2147

My only problem with this skill is after first half second the bubble can be walked through even while you’re channeling. I always evade roll right after I cast it because there is no point channeling it.

I blow it up for an aoe heal unless were getting hit by arrows.

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Posted by: Ifrit.7296

Ifrit.7296

my favorite use is with the sword, it is amazing for preventing db’s on my team. Target enemy about to spike ur teammate. Sword#2 to warp to him, shield #5 to knock back, rez teammate.

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Posted by: Vinushka.8904

Vinushka.8904

I think it would be a much better skill if it has knockback damage.

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Posted by: tasbury.3674

tasbury.3674

The only complaint I have about this skill is the long cooldown.

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Posted by: MooTownSnacker.3659

MooTownSnacker.3659

I feel like the shield goes well with the scepter, as my shield 4 has a nice range when kiting and my shield 5 is good for pushing people away from me, then allowing me to use scepter 3 to root people after they are pushed back. The focus seems more suitable for melee to go with my mace so I would suggest switching the focus and shield abilities with one another.

This feels conceptually backwards to me, as scepter and focus seem more “magical” in nature, and so better paired. I agree with the sentiment that skill 5 should be swapped between focus and shield.

Also, the cooldowns are too long. A-Net wanted shields in this game to be active defense, but it doesn’t feel like I get to use them often enough.

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Posted by: Mistgun.6904

Mistgun.6904

I agree, swap shield 5 and focus 5, it makes more sence.

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Posted by: albotelho.2931

albotelho.2931

I like the skill 5 of the shield, but I think the skill 4 could give us some blocks.

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Posted by: Qelris.6901

Qelris.6901

I like the skill 5 of the shield, but I think the skill 4 could give us some blocks.

I’d say give Shield of Judgement either 5s of self Aegis or remove cast time. Why is there a cast time anyway?

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Posted by: Reihert.1509

Reihert.1509

It is a good skill, but it should push out enemies AND prevent them to reenter it doing it’s effect.

Also, on break, I NEVER saw it’s heal allies effect that’s written on the tool tip.

What I’d do with shields is to increase greatly it’s defense rating and giving it a skill that gives you a number of blocks, like focus gives you.

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Posted by: Razor.9132

Razor.9132

Don’t fix what isn’t broken. Shield certainly isn’t.

As for Shield of Absorption it’s still partly bugged, because the “detonate” phase doesn’t always occur.

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Posted by: Kanexus.2648

Kanexus.2648

OP u looking at it all wrong….just imagine u in combat and about to die right… your skills are almost off cooldown.. you pop that move and it buys you enough time where ur cooldowns are back..then you back in the fight..its a great skill in my opinion

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Posted by: ezhcim.3075

ezhcim.3075

full support, shield is lame doesnt block

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Posted by: nesadi.6190

nesadi.6190

Does detonating SoA actually work/heal? I haven’t experienced it working once.

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Posted by: Qelris.6901

Qelris.6901

Does detonating SoA actually work/heal? I haven’t experienced it working once.

It was apparently fixed. I haven’t used shield for a while, so I don’t know.

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Posted by: teemoor.4397

teemoor.4397

It does. In my 0/0/20/30/20+all cleric gear it heals ~2200-2400