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Posted by: Blissified.8369

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Apparently im a noob because i dont carry a sceptor around, because i like to use staff/greatsword and prefer to melee bosses which i do just fine with, he said wow your a noob you dont use a sceptor, i asked why is that noob?

They told me because sceptor is only ranged weapon guardian has, i then replied with if i need to pull i can use stakitten number 2 orb skill which has 1200 range, then i said i have been playing guardian since beta and i can melee any boss without downing, he then said only a noob uses only melee, i replied by saying melee is way more challenging then ranged how am i the noob?

He then kicked me.

Btw we were doing the trials, i do keep a spare sceptor in my bank if i do need it, but everything ive done so far doesnt require it, if theirs a time i need to be out of range ill just use orb of light on my staff which btw has a reduced cooldown.

This made me so angry, as i was the only one not downing on the last teir of the trials, (one more teir b4 achievement) and they decide to kick me even tho i was pulling more pludneres away with my gs, uses the wall skill on my staff to block plunderers, yet just because i wasnt using a 1200 range (staff is 600) im a noob.

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Posted by: CptAurellian.9537

CptAurellian.9537

Obviously, you ran into some kind of idiot. You are right in that regard that melee is usually more challenging and effective, and GS+staff is not bad combo. However, you should take the scepter with you instead of leaving it in the bank. If you need to go ranged (more than 600), the staff orb is terribly bad, while the scepter is even one of the strongest ranged weapons in the game.

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Posted by: ArchonWing.9480

ArchonWing.9480

“You’re a noob if you don’t play exactly like me”

Ignore them. Any time someone says something dubious without proof besides they’ve been playing since beta, they’re not worth talking about. Scepter is good, but chances are the content you were doing didn’t absolutely require them. It’s not like you guys were attacking a tower and you were using a staff or something.

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Posted by: foofad.5162

foofad.5162

Actually in his defense Scepter is awesome in trials. Immobilizing the looters is a godsend. But yeah, if you were doing fine without it don’t worry about it.

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Posted by: McWolfy.5924

McWolfy.5924

hehe i think that guy is a nab. with my guardian i nearly never use wand.

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Posted by: Nub.2391

Nub.2391

its depending on player skill. but yeah, those people suck, pay no attention on them.
scepter or staff is more on how you use them.
skill 5 staff can stop and kd runner for like 6-7 sec, skill 4 can buff to 12 might for group and heal them. hammer skill 3 immobile, skill 5 stop/kd runner, skill 4 knock back runner.

so after all there lots of thing you can do, not just scepter skill 3.

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Posted by: GSSBlunaspike.4153

GSSBlunaspike.4153

Apparently im a noob because i dont carry a sceptor around, because i like to use staff/greatsword and prefer to melee bosses which i do just fine with, he said wow your a noob you dont use a sceptor, i asked why is that noob?

They told me because sceptor is only ranged weapon guardian has, i then replied with if i need to pull i can use stakitten number 2 orb skill which has 1200 range, then i said i have been playing guardian since beta and i can melee any boss without downing, he then said only a noob uses only melee, i replied by saying melee is way more challenging then ranged how am i the noob?

He then kicked me.

Btw we were doing the trials, i do keep a spare sceptor in my bank if i do need it, but everything ive done so far doesnt require it, if theirs a time i need to be out of range ill just use orb of light on my staff which btw has a reduced cooldown.

This made me so angry, as i was the only one not downing on the last teir of the trials, (one more teir b4 achievement) and they decide to kick me even tho i was pulling more pludneres away with my gs, uses the wall skill on my staff to block plunderers, yet just because i wasnt using a 1200 range (staff is 600) im a noob.

Just solo it. It’s faster, easier, and you don’t have to worry about people messing it up. For some reason when I used staff the plunderers would just walk through my wall.

Take a typical scepter build with signets bane/wrath and signet cd reduction. It’s kind of boring because you end up just waiting for it to end though.

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Posted by: Silentstorm.7531

Silentstorm.7531

eh…should let ego gamers ruin your day

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Posted by: iCryptik.1496

iCryptik.1496

You should always carry one of every weapon on you, as you never know when you’ll need it. I find I typically only use scepter in arah and when attacking keeps in WvW.

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Posted by: Wukunlin.8461

Wukunlin.8461

I do think the staff is barely ranged and barely a weapon (the damage is that bad, I only use it for kiting, running, stacking my sigil, and the empower). But I also think you met some spoiled insecure kid playing games past his bedtime. Like the other guy said, don’t let them ruin your day.

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Posted by: GSSBlunaspike.4153

GSSBlunaspike.4153

I do think the staff is barely ranged and barely a weapon (the damage is that bad, I only use it for kiting, running, stacking my sigil, and the empower). But I also think you met some spoiled insecure kid playing games past his bedtime. Like the other guy said, don’t let them ruin your day.

Even with mediocre damage think of the utility you just named for the staff. I’m not a huge fan of it, but it’s a great situation weapon. It’s much more a utility weapon, but I guess you would have to consider how bad guardians are at ranged to begin with. Our only other ranged is scepter, and it’s pretty kitten awful.

I’m not really complaining because our melee options are outstanding, so it balances out. I would much rather play a balanced class than an op one just waiting for the nerf.

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Posted by: Korval.3751

Korval.3751

Blissified don’t listen to ANYONE. The best advice anyone can offer is situational builds. For example I wrote a post providing Trait, Weapon and Skills that are helpful for Trials T4. But they are not the best bestest in the best kitten world! They just worked really well for the instance.

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Posted by: akamon.2769

akamon.2769

didn’t we used to be noobs when we did play scepter? those people.

i will say scepter makes trials almost trivial. and it IS very strong. but i don’t play it for ranged. i play scepter in your face. so, OP, you go play how you want, the way you want. don’t let others affect how you enjoy and perform in the game.

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Posted by: ESKan.6782

ESKan.6782

I’ve had someone pull that on me for bringing a hammer. I laughed in his face.

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Posted by: akamon.2769

akamon.2769

i’ve learnt that if you’re in a group, and they tell you off for using certain weapons (least on the Guardian), they just donno what they’re talking about.

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Posted by: Young Somalia.1706

Young Somalia.1706

i’ve learnt that if you’re in a group, and they tell you off for using certain weapons (least on the Guardian), they just donno what they’re talking about.

Not always true; in this instance I find myself in agreement, but if they were camping a staff autoattack for an entire dugeon path… c’mon, at least try and contribute to your party, and your betterment as an individual/player.

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Posted by: akamon.2769

akamon.2769

^^^ lol fair enough. and agreed. i was playing devil’s advocate >:DD

but hear me out, i was more getting at this —> i believe you could build in such a way that the staff does really massive DPS. but of course, to your point, one would need to utilize all the weapon has to offer. staff 4 to open up fights. staff #5 [edit: donno why s t a kitten was censored O___o], disable mobs for a few seconds, while you group stack demolishes them, throw a 3 down as well for more AoE. staff 1 to clean up. staff 2 for more dmg or heals if needed. while running from A to B, staff 3 for swiftness, and 5 for blocking a choke point if you’re leashing / running past mobs, etc etc…

so my point is/was.. i do believe all weapons can be viable (sure, some may be better suited for other situations), in the right hands. so it’s not only a matter of weapon or utility choice then, but how that player chooses to use them. and to a certain extent, how well your group knows to respond to your choices and actions.

i.e. don’t judge a player just by what weapon set they choose. take a moment to see how they perform with their weapon of choice first. same goes with utilities. same goes with builds.

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Posted by: Razor.9872

Razor.9872

As long as you don’t die or need to pull an enemy, melee is the superior attack option. Everyone knows melee outputs greater DPS and manipulation options.

Higher risk = Higher reward

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Posted by: Ozymandias.5704

Ozymandias.5704

Actually in his defense Scepter is awesome in trials. Immobilizing the looters is a godsend. But yeah, if you were doing fine without it don’t worry about it.

I use my hammer on the plunderers a lot, seems to work well with the immobilize and the ring that they cannot run out of( they keep falling on this kitten when they try).

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Posted by: LetoII.3782

LetoII.3782

I’ve certainly noticed EVERYBODY is a guardian expert, even if they’ve never played one.. “This is the role I think you should be performing”
Personally, I think Spiked Heavy Armor, Massive Shield and Fairy Wand is a practical joke on Anets part. As in, how silly are you willing to look for a few damage points?

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Posted by: aophts.9862

aophts.9862

It’s scepter. And, i tought it was the opposite, guardians using scepters are called noobs. Like, it’s the only ranged weapon we have and the Smite is very nice, but if you use scepter you are automatically a noob, kittening pathetic this thing, so now i can’t use scepter? Really?

Stupid elitists and so called “veteran/pro” players are ruining this game.

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Posted by: Littlefeather.8623

Littlefeather.8623

I’d suggest scepter for PvP.

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Posted by: spoj.9672

spoj.9672

It’s scepter. And, i tought it was the opposite, guardians using scepters are called noobs. Like, it’s the only ranged weapon we have and the Smite is very nice, but if you use scepter you are automatically a noob, kittening pathetic this thing, so now i can’t use scepter? Really?

Stupid elitists and so called “veteran/pro” players are ruining this game.

Using scepter 24/7 is stupid. Nothing annoys me more than seeing a guardian just sitting back with a scepter while the rest of the group is meleeing. Also guards meleeing with scepter, i facepalm at that everytime. I carry a scepter and use it if I need to range something. Rest of the time I run with sword focus and gs. Sometimes staff for running or kiting on dredge fractal gate room. Hammer for fights like laurent in TA or mossman.

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Posted by: timidobserver.7925

timidobserver.7925

Having a scepter in your bag wouldn’t be that bad of an idea. There are plenty of places in the game where ranged dps is the only viable option. That said, I don’t agree with the assertion that all guardians should use a scepter as their primary weapon.

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Posted by: GSSBlunaspike.4153

GSSBlunaspike.4153

Blissified don’t listen to ANYONE. The best advice anyone can offer is situational builds. For example I wrote a post providing Trait, Weapon and Skills that are helpful for Trials T4. But they are not the best bestest in the best kitten world! They just worked really well for the instance.

We have one on these forums too. You should repost there. I’m not sure if any guardian soloed it before I did, not that I personally care, but I did create the thread on it for a reason. I want other guardians to see the different builds that can do it easily.

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Posted by: LetoII.3782

LetoII.3782

It’s a fairy wand that shoots big pink puffballs and fists people.

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Posted by: GSSBlunaspike.4153

GSSBlunaspike.4153

It’s a fairy wand that shoots big pink puffballs and fists people.

What is? That sounds pretty kitten cool. Would love to use something like that on my Charr.

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Posted by: Guanglai Kangyi.4318

Guanglai Kangyi.4318

Scepter is actually the most powerful weapon IN THE GAME in the right situations, never mind that it’s a 1200 range 1H weapon. Anet balancing to thank for that, I guess. If you see a big target, scepter it. You actually deal more damage than you would in melee with a greatsword, even if you decide to stay in close anyway to give/get group buffs.

So yeah, next time you are feeling like a big man with your 20k warrior HB numbers, keep in mind that the “scrub” guardian in the back with a scepter is actually dealing more damage to the effigy than you are.

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Posted by: Celestina.2894

Celestina.2894

As much as I hate scepter myself……..I was forced to hate it with a great amount of respect after it allowed me solo Mai Trin and Horrick in the aetherblade dungeon, everyone but me died from the first cannon barrage so it fell to me to finish the dungeon for them.

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Posted by: Wolfheart.1938

Wolfheart.1938

You should bring each type of weapon in your inventory. Other than that, play as you want and don’t let other players spoil your fun for you.

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Posted by: CptAurellian.9537

CptAurellian.9537

Almost. You won’t miss much without torch and mace, so that frees up two inventory slots.

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Posted by: Blissified.8369

Blissified.8369

Actually in his defense Scepter is awesome in trials. Immobilizing the looters is a godsend. But yeah, if you were doing fine without it don’t worry about it.

it was trials, and immobalizing is good, staff has line of warding which is just as good, / better if u have multiple people, and that plus the greatsword pull i was fine.

oh I WAS the one that said ive been playing since beta btw.

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Posted by: Blissified.8369

Blissified.8369

Having a scepter in your bag wouldn’t be that bad of an idea. There are plenty of places in the game where ranged dps is the only viable option. That said, I don’t agree with the assertion that all guardians should use a scepter as their primary weapon.

I personally like to use melee / semi melee for all parts, and its gone fine, when people do the stack together and range to death i move in and melee the bosses, its just A LOT HADER i prefer to play this way, if i need range for pulling i do have 1200 with the orb on the staff.

I play melee only by choice, not cuz of ingorance.

Theirs nothing in the game that requires ranged that i can think of, some of the little cheap strats against bosses call for it, but im already bored because this games pve is easy so going melee only makes it a little more tolerable.

Btw with greatsword pull and staff line of warding i do great on the trials, ( i even solo them) IMO thats more build dependant anyway.