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Posted by: Blazin Blunt.6908

Blazin Blunt.6908

Hi people currently im working with a build in which i am very comfortable. But i want to look into other more dps builds.

This is what im currently working with (a pretty standard build)
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http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/guardian/?3|1.1n.h1b|2.1n.h18|1a.71g.1c.71g.1a.71h.1n.71h.1c.b1h.1n.b1h|1n.64.1n.64.1n.64.1n.68.1n.68.ck.68|0.5.u65b.u289.5|0.0|e

Bu before im going to do the big switcheroo, can anybody tell me what the formula is for zealous blade, how much healingpower do you need for a decent heal…

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Posted by: Harbinger.8637

Harbinger.8637

Healing power doesn’t affect Zealous blade. It’s always 25. Which is why nobody ever runs it.

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Posted by: KrisHQ.4719

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Don’t ever trait Zealous Blade at this state, it is useless :/

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Posted by: Blazin Blunt.6908

Blazin Blunt.6908

Done thank you guys!

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Posted by: Bash.7291

Bash.7291

I would not say it is useless, but it is somewhat lacking, upping the heal a bit would be nice, or moving it down to a lower tier. Amins and I (mostly Amins since I just modified his original build) run a 30/10/30/0/0 build that utilizes it and it does what is needed. The healing does add up over time, and in group fights where you are hitting multiple targets it isn’t too bad.

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Posted by: D I V A.6018

D I V A.6018

25 Healing @ lvl 80 is extremely useless imao. I mean there is also a caption on AoE attacks in PvE (which makes kind of sense) so the best you get from a single attack / pulse is 125. Terrible.

In my opinion 75 might be the way to go, maybe even higher, 100?!

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Posted by: Silver.8023

Silver.8023

I think 25 actually isn’t too bad a number considering the Guardian’s various other heals that will be coming in on top of this. A Whirling Wrath that hits five targets will easily net you over 1000 hp healed. Single target, yeah not so much but who really uses greatsword for single target damage?

In any case, it would be a pretty slippery slope, balance-wise, if you have a good think about it. I mean, it’s no Monk’s Focus or Altruistic Healing because, realistically, if it were, people would take both and become invincible and it would ensure that almost no other weapons get used.

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Posted by: Danicco.3568

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Zealous Blade is sorta good if you’ve went 30 in Zeal already, as it will proc for any hit you deal while wielding a Greatsword.
This means all hits of a Symbol of Wrath will proc the heal. As well as all hits from a Whirling Wrath.

For example, hitting 5 monsters with a Symbol of Wrath (hits 5 times) and a Whirling Wrath (assuming 9 hits) would heal you for 1750. It’s a pretty decent value.

But I don’t know since when, they nerfed the Zeal’s Grandmaster minor (one of the ninja nerfs) to increase Symbol damage just by 10%.
It was something close to 25% (27% according to wiki) which made my Symbols hit for close to 1k each on a full Power build. Now they’re about 600~800 so I think the Zeal value line is even weaker than before…

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Posted by: Harbinger.8637

Harbinger.8637

I’m sure Anet doesn’t know how to balance it. So they left it alone. Lets say they buffed it to 75 or 100.

AH + ZB + Omnomberry Pie would be the most op thing in the game. You could run full zerker and still tank.

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Posted by: ArtemisEntreri.4138

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I’m sure Anet doesn’t know how to balance it. So they left it alone. Lets say they buffed it to 75 or 100.

AH + ZB + Omnomberry Pie would be the most op thing in the game. You could run full zerker and still tank.

Oh man, can you imagine that? 79 per buff per stack, 100 per successful hit with GS, and Omnomberry pie healing for 325 almost per second. That would be ridiculous.

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Posted by: Silver.8023

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As I mentioned in another thread, I think the problem is that people are expecting it alone to be able to keep them alive when its real intention is to be used in addition to the various other ways Guardians have to heal themselves.

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Posted by: Star Ace.5207

Star Ace.5207

This skill was changed for a while-it heals for 26 instead. Not that said fact will make it any more appealing to many of you, of course.

I agree with Silver; if you use it in tandem with the myriad of ways Guardians have to heal themselves and mitigate damage, it adds up nicely. I have used it to great effect, especially againts multiple, pulled-in mobs.

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Posted by: Danicco.3568

Danicco.3568

This skill was changed for a while-it heals for 26 instead. Not that said fact will make it any more appealing to many of you, of course.

I agree with Silver; if you use it in tandem with the myriad of ways Guardians have to heal themselves and mitigate damage, it adds up nicely. I have used it to great effect, especially againts multiple, pulled-in mobs.

It still heals for 25, you’re getting more because of your server’s WvW bonus.

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Posted by: Star Ace.5207

Star Ace.5207

This skill was changed for a while-it heals for 26 instead. Not that said fact will make it any more appealing to many of you, of course.

I agree with Silver; if you use it in tandem with the myriad of ways Guardians have to heal themselves and mitigate damage, it adds up nicely. I have used it to great effect, especially againts multiple, pulled-in mobs.

It still heals for 25, you’re getting more because of your server’s WvW bonus.

No wonder why it did heal for 27 very rarely. I would have never guessed this (I don’t touch nor would enjoy PvP), especially because I thought the WvW bonus affected Healing Power, not just all sorts of heals accross the board.

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Posted by: Barnabus Stinson.1409

Barnabus Stinson.1409

I think it could be fixed by Making it a life steal instead of a standard heal. This means it would still only give 26 healing, which isnt that noticeable but would also damage for 26, making an effect change of 52 split between the two parties.