healing Symbols + Zealous blade?

healing Symbols + Zealous blade?

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Posted by: CMstorm.8679

CMstorm.8679

Has/will the healing from Zealous Blade get a buff? cuz I don’t see how gaining 25hp from gs attacks is even worth it. BUT, some meditations do work with zealous blade, same with other symbols/dot weapon skills. Say you were running Mace of Justice, Zealous Blade, Writ of Persistence and Writ of the merciful.
You find yourself running low on health and you’ve already used your healing utl. So you lay down gs#4 and use Smite Condition while you’re spinning with gs#2, assuming you hit some people… then switch to mace for your Symbol of Faith. Would that healing even be worth it from zealous blade? or would it just be better to go some bunker with monk’s focus…?

healing Symbols + Zealous blade?

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Posted by: CMF.5461

CMF.5461

The advantage of Zealous Blade is in an AE situation for burst healing.

99% sure there is a 5 target maximum on whirling wrath, with 7 blade hits and 7 projectile hits. Each hit healing for 25 health.

7 blade hits * 5 targets = 35
35 + 7 projectile hits = 42

42 hits * 25 healing each = 1050 healing every 10 to 8 seconds.

Here is the inherent problem with it (besides the low base healing and no healing power coefficient)…the healing gets worse as you kill your targets…

After that the auto attack/leap and symbol all hit too slow to do any significant healing to note. Although you can layer whirling wrath and symbol of wrath together to get an extra kittens on the 5 targets increasing the total hits by 25 making it hit 67 times and heal for 1675 total every time you combine WW with Symbol.

Also, if you are surrounded by 5+ targets, they are probably hitting you faster/harder than you can manage with just 1050 healing every 10 to 8 seconds can manage.

Now stacking Writ of the Merciful with Zealous blade, you can pretty much skip the zealous blade and just run writ of the merciful to get the same effect, but the symbol on greatsword has too long of a cooldown to make it very effective with that trait anyway, and you are better off with hammer or mace. As you pointed out in your OP.

Writ of the Merciful is kind of interesting with 5 points in Zeal for Zealot’s Speed, which puts down a symbol at 25% life. It works like an emergency heal. Combined with using mace or hammer, you now have 2 symbols healing you instead of just 1. Gives us a sort of layered healing effect when low on life. I am 99% sure that both tick, but someone could verify that one if they need.

Using Zealous Blade to augment Monk’s Focus heals is “ok” but again, the healing is so small it is nominal at best.

Zealous Blade is good for short fights of AE situations and that is it. Longer the fight and the less mobs, the worse it is to rely on.

(edited by CMF.5461)

healing Symbols + Zealous blade?

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Posted by: Guanglai Kangyi.4318

Guanglai Kangyi.4318

Zealous Blade is for the DPS buff. The healing is presumably just there so the AH babies will hopefully stop running 0/0/30/30/10 and start taking at least one DPS-boosting trait.

healing Symbols + Zealous blade?

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Posted by: CMstorm.8679

CMstorm.8679

The advantage of Zealous Blade is in an AE situation for burst healing.

99% sure there is a 5 target maximum on whirling wrath, with 7 blade hits and 7 projectile hits. Each hit healing for 25 health.

7 blade hits * 5 targets = 35
35 + 7 projectile hits = 42

42 hits * 25 healing each = 1050 healing every 10 to 8 seconds.

Here is the inherent problem with it (besides the low base healing and no healing power coefficient)…the healing gets worse as you kill your targets…

After that the auto attack/leap and symbol all hit too slow to do any significant healing to note. Although you can layer whirling wrath and symbol of wrath together to get an extra kittens on the 5 targets increasing the total hits by 25 making it hit 67 times and heal for 1675 total every time you combine WW with Symbol.

Also, if you are surrounded by 5+ targets, they are probably hitting you faster/harder than you can manage with just 1050 healing every 10 to 8 seconds can manage.

Now stacking Writ of the Merciful with Zealous blade, you can pretty much skip the zealous blade and just run writ of the merciful to get the same effect, but the symbol on greatsword has too long of a cooldown to make it very effective with that trait anyway, and you are better off with hammer or mace. As you pointed out in your OP.

Writ of the Merciful is kind of interesting with 5 points in Zeal for Zealot’s Speed, which puts down a symbol at 25% life. It works like an emergency heal. Combined with using mace or hammer, you now have 2 symbols healing you instead of just 1. Gives us a sort of layered healing effect when low on life. I am 99% sure that both tick, but someone could verify that one if they need.

Using Zealous Blade to augment Monk’s Focus heals is “ok” but again, the healing is so small it is nominal at best.

Zealous Blade is good for short fights of AE situations and that is it. Longer the fight and the less mobs, the worse it is to rely on.

Aight, thanks for the input. I was sure it’s not even worth it. the “greatsword attacks heal you” part looked interesting at first :P

healing Symbols + Zealous blade?

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Posted by: CMF.5461

CMF.5461

Zealous Blade is for the DPS buff. The healing is presumably just there so the AH babies will hopefully stop running 0/0/30/30/10 and start taking at least one DPS-boosting trait.

If you are taking Zealous Blade, you are already taking dps boosting traits and probably have fiery wrath at that point anyway.

Zealous Blade is worthless as a heal and AH babies will never run it, even if that was the intent. Stacked with the 5% greatsword damage as it is now, the healing is just extra that no one will ever notice probably.

Side tangent, would be interesting if zealous blade lost the heal and changed it so that VoJ would proc blind with every 5 attacks instead of burning……offensive/defense?