Guild Wars 2

Would be great if the guardians had a trait who change their fields from light to water, gives a lot of problems spam those fields especialy on wvw

Unfortunaly, water fields in such abundance and on short CD’s would break WvW :O

Yeah would be broken, but a great grandmaster trait for guardians

Silv.9207:

The Guardian is a supporter but not a good healer (not for your allies).
You can obtain good defence and self healing ability, but to healyour allies is better use a ele, engi, warrior, ranger or mesmer.
You can heal whit symbol, but there’s only someone that us ehealing symbols. and it’s like 130 hp x pulse. You can heal whit F2, and it can be good, but only every 60 sec. You can use the Staff and heal by 1500 every 20 sec. Or dodge-roll, healing by 450 hp.
A mesmer spash heal by 3k every 3 sec.
A ele can heal by 1300 just dodging, cleaning a condition. Or heal by 1500 every 20 sec and by 1500 every 40 sec. And give a lot of Water Field, healing whit every Blast Finisher.

The Idea for the Guardian is to make a self healing Supporter. Your Light Fields can clean conditions whit Projectiles and Wirl Finishers and your traits focus on clean conditions (Pure of Voice and Absolute Resolution). And give Retalation whit Leap and Blast Finishers, that make your enemy lesser eager to attack you and your allies.

That’s why they will never let us obtain Water Fields.

You’re comparing Guardians with ~300 healing power to ele’s with ~500 healing power. A support orientated guardian van heal allies for ~1.2K each dodge roll, the staff 4 skill heals for 2.5. Mace ticks are very good, F2 is 2.2K on a decent cooldown, guardians have many many tools to heal, but water fields are not among them because it would be OP. However nice it would be to have 1 on a long cooldown, probably won’t happen indeed ;-)

^Not to mention Healing Breeze is the most powerful heal to allies in the game (besides Light of Deliverance). With 1400 healing power it’s like an 8800~ heal to allies (going into the 9000’s with Monk runes).

The notion that a healing guardian’s supportive healing is inferior to a water elementalist’s supportive healing is a fallacy as far as I understand. Even without Tome of Courage, when properly specced for it, guardians might actually outheal (in terms of ally-healing) water eles. With Tome of Courage, a guardian is by far the best healer in the game. Of course Tome of Courage isn’t always on, but the amount of healing it provides just with Heal Area alone is pretty stupidly high (providing you have healing power).

i didn’t mean “changing guardian’s healing skills” but just “change light fields to water fields” this because they are on the way with useless area retaliation when you actually need area heal in wvw

Guardians are by far the best healer / support in the game. Giving them access to water fields would break them.

I’d rather them change light field combos to be something other than retaliation.

Or, light fields could stay the way they are and retal could be made more useful. Who knows.

I’d rather see symbols changed to fire fields, and maybe tack that on to kindled zeal for fun. Honestly, I think kindled zeal is mostly overshadowed now by amplified wrath, even if it does allow you to get 4016+ condi damage on a guardian (not a typo).

Kindled zeal needs to do something different now, and it’s giving me a feeling of letting the guardian ramp up in effectiveness. That plays into symbols acting as fire fields (to ramp up might), or maybe having another effect while target is burning. Once that happens and spirit weapons are made more fluid, 30 in zeal will feel pretty good.

They could just have a new utility that when activated “turns any combo field at the target location into a water field”

I think a trait which converts consecration light (and fire?) fields into water fields would be quite interesting (perhaps as a grandmaster trait). I mean, I think consecrations are the only utility line that don’t have a corresponding grandmaster trait.

In fact i suggest to put it as a grandmaster trait, so only people that know of this problem would actually take it (not like many that posted here wich don’t even know how big of a problem it is in WvW but also in PvE like Tequatl’s fight…how many times you need a burst heal or to stack might and a guardian makes a symbol over the fields? too many times…) it could be like “blessed waters”, sounds good