Guild Wars 2

Uses Diviner’s amulet which the editor doesn’t have for some reason.
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vVAQNAR5en8cCFditCBmCB8Dhl5BrqBkACAX3rH1MQ++1/GgA-T5AGwANuIAB3fAwTAAA

What does it do? Retal! For everyone!
The Zeal trait turns aegis into retal, so it prioritizes aegis sharing. If played right you should get 100% retal uptime on you and your team with diviner’s amulet. Works extremely well for cleave builds and builds with quick attack rates.

Thoughts? Opinions? Threats of violence?

If I would like to play with retaliation (wish it was a better boon, after it got nerfed it became more like a filler boon) I would go with the Radiance Traitline (Healer’s Retribution, Retribution and Perfect Inscriptions/Radiant retaliation). I would also get a big amount of toughness and vitality since there’s not much point in using retaliation if you’re gonna be dead fast. Activating Light Auras will make GS a good weapon but I would chose Focus over Shield for blasting and granting area retaliation and because of blocks.

Runes of the trooper AH and shouts… I don’t know, they won’t give you a lot of survival and won’t compensate the build for more survivability. I’d probably go with Honor instead of Zeal, using Bulwark, PoH and Writ of Persistence… Would chose Mender’s amulet and some runes that add survival like Dolyak or Resistance (more aegis) for survival. I would add some signets to the build so perfect inscriptions work (might even add elite signet skill).

In the end high damage output+retaliation won’t work pretty well.
Big side note: It’s really uncommon killing someone in PvP with retaliation.

Hope this helps.

The only time I have died to retaliation was during the days I used to use Procession of Blades and someone gave the team Retal. I took 30 retal hits real quick and I was already low. When I play Scrapper I give myself and team retal when fighting DH. It was a nice dps boost. I wouldn’t spec specifically for it.

NumenorLord.6539:

If I would like to play with retaliation (wish it was a better boon, after it got nerfed it became more like a filler boon) I would go with the Radiance Traitline (Healer’s Retribution, Retribution and Perfect

Radiance doesn’t help the build function, moreover it’s silly since I have 100% personal retal uptime without it. The function of the build is to give everyone retal, not just the user Radiance does not help with that.

Runes of the trooper AH and shouts… I don’t know, they won’t give you a lot of survival and won’t compensate the build for more survivability. I’d probably go with Honor instead of Zeal, using Bulwark, PoH and Writ of Persistence… Would chose Mender’s amulet and some runes that add survival like Dolyak or Resistance (more aegis) for survival. I would add some signets to the build so perfect inscriptions work (might even add elite signet skill).

“retreat” is taken for the AoE aegis. (aegis both explodes and grants retal) The other shout is taken for area stability and the bit of retal.

Also Zeal is entirely necessary. The entire build functions off of Wrathful Spirit and Shattered Aegis. Likewise Valor is taken for Communal defenses which synergizes extremely well with the amove two traits.

Not having Zeal defeats the entire point of the build which is to give everyone retal and explody aegis.

Now yes you are right it’s total squishy, but The class has enough active defensives that it’s not overly crippling the build, and the team support it puts out is strong. Just have to be one the ball when it comes to positioning and cd management.

Big side note: It’s really uncommon killing someone in PvP with retaliation.

Of course, but the additional damage it puts out is non-trivial, particularly when used against any high rate of attack cleave classes. (symbolic guard, trapper guard, necro wells, electro-whirl, ranger LB) Also pairs hilariously well with a minion necro, because well it’s minions with exploding aegis and retal.

The point of the build is penalize cleaving by giving everyone near a point retal and explody aegis. Cleaving 1 retaled target is inconsequential, cleaving 3 retaled targets (and potentially retaled minions) can hurt.

The damage is there, I don’t know the exact numbers since damage dealt by retal applied to other players contributes to their numbers and not mine, but 700k+ is fairly standard for non-blowouts.

I did run a retal aegis shout build in S2 and S3, when the meta didn’t revolve around burst and glass really wasn’t a thing. Back then teamed with bunker eles, and in teamfights, it makes all the multi hitting AoE’s more punishing. Like Overcharged air on the tempest hitting 3-4 targets with retal was quite nice. Also seeing full trapper guards kill themselves with PoB was always fun too.

Interesting concept .. I attempted one a while back but didn’t pursue it. I might take another look at it. The trick has always been in balancing survivability with it. I think retal is strong in team fights but shouldn’t be the primary use for the build. You might need to find another primary role for the build that works with the retal sharing.

The amulet of choice is not a support amulet. You’re still very glassy. Usually that’s compensated with meditations and Valor line and you don’t have both here. I’m not trying to put you down but rather inspire innovation. If you can work out survivability into the build you would have more reception.

Looking forward to the revised version