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Posted by: Envy.1679

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does it stack with other guardians with the same trait?

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Posted by: Me Kill You.9035

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Nope. But more than one running the trait will spread it to more people if I’m not mistaken

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Posted by: CMF.5461

CMF.5461

Bonus info, the trait “Retributive Armor” does not take the extra toughness from Strength in Numbers into account.

Very tiny increase in precision if it did, but still worth noting it is not working…intended or not.

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Posted by: Tarsius.3170

Tarsius.3170

and it will work with similar skills from other professions, like Warrior Empower Allies and Ranger Spotter traits

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Posted by: Lord Trejgon.2809

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btw. when efect of this trait is on somebody and you manage to read the description of the efect it still tell about +70 toughness

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Posted by: Darek.1836

Darek.1836

btw. when efect of this trait is on somebody and you manage to read the description of the efect it still tell about +70 toughness

but the effect is 150 regardless

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Posted by: Nespinha.3165

Nespinha.3165

Bonus info, the trait “Retributive Armor” does not take the extra toughness from Strength in Numbers into account.

Very tiny increase in precision if it did, but still worth noting it is not working…intended or not.

It does take the extra toughness into acc

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Posted by: Darek.1836

Darek.1836

Bonus info, the trait “Retributive Armor” does not take the extra toughness from Strength in Numbers into account.

Very tiny increase in precision if it did, but still worth noting it is not working…intended or not.

It does take the extra toughness into acc

nope, precision does not change.

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Posted by: Nespinha.3165

Nespinha.3165

Bonus info, the trait “Retributive Armor” does not take the extra toughness from Strength in Numbers into account.

Very tiny increase in precision if it did, but still worth noting it is not working…intended or not.

It does take the extra toughness into acc

nope, precision does not change.

I was almost sure it did, does the buildcraft calc have a bug then?

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Posted by: Alexei.4698

Alexei.4698

Don’t forget that SiN is only active while in combat. Did you check the Precision value while fighting something? =)

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Posted by: Tarsius.3170

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I do not believe it is counted, probably because area in-combat traits are applied after almost everything else.

I have checked the precision count in-combat before and it doesn’t change, although that could just be a display issue.
Conversion traits like Retributive Armour are applied after your base stats are counted and food is applied ( so it should benefit from toughness based foods )

I guess the only way to truly know would be to get to about 95% crit chance and then test if you still get occassional non-crits with Strength In Numbers enabled.

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dont forget that 5% of 150 toughness is only 7.5 extra precision, which is less then 1% crit chance.

if you look at kinded zeal( 10% of ur power converted to condition damage), increasing ur attack with mightstacks does give you extra condition damage.

i didnt check if the presicion goes up with 7-8, but it might work but to little to change the %.

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Posted by: Tarsius.3170

Tarsius.3170

if you look at kinded zeal( 10% of ur power converted to condition damage), increasing ur attack with mightstacks does give you extra condition damage.

Nope, I believe Kindled Zeal applies the 10% to your base power, and does not include extra power gleaned from Might stacks. Bear in mind that 1 stack of Might = 35 Power AND 35 condtion damage, so you will see it increasing with each stack ( but it will be the same total increase with or without the grandmaster trait ).

i didnt check if the presicion goes up with 7-8, but it might work but to little to change the %.

Well precision definitely didn’t budge for me when entering combat ( I know this because my test setup in the Mists conveniently happened to have exactly 2k of precision ). It could be a display issue, but my gut feeling is those area bonus effects are applied after the conversion is calculated.

I’d be curious to know whether Banner of Strength or similar is applied before or after conversion traits too.

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