Guild Wars 2

Too many necros. Finding it hard to cope these huge condi builds as a guard in tpvp. Any one have any suggestions on how to cope?

heh, i haven’t played PvP since the necro buffs but i do hear they are running rampant! XDD

what build are you usually running? to give the Guardian community a better idea of what we can do to help ya improve!

1. Run signet heal instead of shelter
2. Make sure to run “pure of voice”, “purity” and “absolute resolution”
3. Soldier runes
4. Switch Sanctuary for Purging Flames and trait Master of Conscentrations
5. Might wanna test to swap in a tourch in off-hand for cleansing, even greatsword whirls/leap for condi clearing through light fields might be a good idea if condi heavy. Not like your staff 4 will help – might just make it worse if corrupted.

Hope it helps!

to add, just listing most if not all possibilities:

6. Run meditations if you no likey shouts – Smite Condition and Contemplation of Purity
7. Focus #4 into a bunch of peeps so it bizounces
8. Inscribed Removal if for some reason you’re running more than one or two Signets
9. Lyssa Runes + Renewed Focus
10. Generosity (or Purity, but might as well go Gen) sigils
11. Not condition cleansing but you can try to run Melandru Runes for condition duration % reduction.

@Zkarlet – iirc, Torch 5 and whirl combo on light fiedds don’t cleanse conditions off yourself, only your allies that they hit. but still useful if you’re allies around you obviously.

[added: and general note re: Purging Flames, supposedly it doesn’t remove one condition per pulse, but each time you enter it. so one on activation, another when you walk out and back in, rinse and repeat for the duration.]

What many ppl don’t know is about the mace: If you put the light-field (Nr. 2) and while in the field doing the block (Nr. 3) you get a condition remove (Combofield: Light + Whirl-Finisher)

Rest is Basic Stuff: Pure of Voice, Absolute Resolution, Soldier Runes, 2-3 shouts (Save yourselfs is not that good for youself but can do wonders for your teammates).

Purging Flames is also an interesting idea, but only removes conditions if run into the combo-field. this means sometimes if you’ve captured the point there is nearly no chance to run out of this field and hop in again due to possible neutralizes.

Contemplation of Purity could be also a possible aid. The downside is that this utility is a bit selfish, but in the meantime very powerful.

So you see, there is a lot of space for individual play. Try different things and see what fits your playstyle the best. Good luck.

akamon.2769:

to add, just listing most if not all possibilities:

6. Run meditations if you no likey shouts – Smite Condition and Contemplation of Purity
7. Focus #4 into a bunch of peeps so it bizounces
8. Inscribed Removal if for some reason you’re running more than one or two Signets
9. Lyssa Runes + Renewed Focus
10. Generosity (or Purity, but might as well go Gen) sigils
11. Not condition cleansing but you can try to run Melandru Runes for condition duration % reduction.

@Zkarlet – iirc, Torch 5 and whirl combo on light fiedds don’t cleanse conditions off yourself, only your allies that they hit. but still useful if you’re allies around you obviously.

[added: and general note re: Purging Flames, supposedly it doesn’t remove one condition per pulse, but each time you enter it. so one on activation, another when you walk out and back in, rinse and repeat for the duration.]

Whirl on light combo field does in fact remove conditions, you have to be moving while you do it in an attempt to “catch” the cleansing bolts. After reading what you said I thought maybe he’s right and conditions dropping from me was from my trait and signet. However I removed both of those and fought a condi Thief in spvp real quick. I let him stack up some conditions and did symbol+ whirl and sure enough about 2 or so were removed, you just have to be moving while spinning. This also works if you whirl inside wall of reflection.

I usually just dive the necro and spam blinds and blocks til he’s dead :P, I even sometimes take bane signet over contemplation.

But okay you probably mean bunker; in which case well timed absolute resolutions + 1 other method of actively removing conditions should keep you alive. Don’t forget to put energy sigils on both sets and dodge like crazy for selfless daring procs and avoiding conditions altogether (its real easy to get lazy and not dodge like crazy).

Hopefully your team is bringing some area cleansing as well, gone are the days that you can just rely on your bunker to do everything for you.

Thryfe.2576:

Whirl on light combo field does in fact remove conditions, you have to be moving while you do it in an attempt to “catch” the cleansing bolts. After reading what you said I thought maybe he’s right and conditions dropping from me was from my trait and signet. However I removed both of those and fought a condi Thief in spvp real quick. I let him stack up some conditions and did symbol+ whirl and sure enough about 2 or so were removed, you just have to be moving while spinning. This also works if you whirl inside wall of reflection.

oh nice! didn’t know that. i only remember trying to use whirling combo on light fields to remove conditions from myself and asked aroundo n the forums and got the same answer. i’ll have to test this out. have you been able to replicate this pretty much no demand? since the bolts are sort of random as well.

This is very close to what I run most tourneys – I find it deals exceptionally well with condi pressure. There’s a little wiggle room in the build in case you prefer 0/5/5/30/30 for the extra stability as well.

http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=-7s-Fw;0NFk40J3wF-90;9;549TO;44;014A38-U-F7U;1ZF18ZF186gq

TheLastBrohican.5376:

This is very close to what I run most tourneys – I find it deals exceptionally well with condi pressure. There’s a little wiggle room in the build in case you prefer 0/5/5/30/30 for the extra stability as well.

http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=-7s-Fw;0NFk40J3wF-90;9;549TO;44;014A38-U-F7U;1ZF18ZF186gq

I would go for 0/0/10/30/30 instead of 0/5/5/30/30. An AoE blind is cool, but 1 condition-cleanse every 10 seconds is in the necro-meta pretty strong.

Empathetic Fighter.2065:

TheLastBrohican.5376:

This is very close to what I run most tourneys – I find it deals exceptionally well with condi pressure. There’s a little wiggle room in the build in case you prefer 0/5/5/30/30 for the extra stability as well.

http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=-7s-Fw;0NFk40J3wF-90;9;549TO;44;014A38-U-F7U;1ZF18ZF186gq

I would go for 0/0/10/30/30 instead of 0/5/5/30/30. An AoE blind is cool, but 1 condition-cleanse every 10 seconds is in the necro-meta pretty strong.

I agree, I was running that pre-patch and loved it. I’m sure it’s still strong, but I’ve been running 0/5/10/30/25 giving up stability on Courage for the burn on block – loving that too! It’s an interesting trade-off for sure, the Guardian has lots of choices within the standard 0/0/10/30/30 dynamic that are worth trying I think.