Guild Wars 2

Okay, so Condition builds that use iDuelist’s “feature” with Duelist’s Discipline have existed for a long time, but never really caught on. With the new buffs to the Sceptre I decided to take another look.

This is what I came up with.

It was a bit of a debate whether I should invest in Illusions or Dueling for the last 10 points, but in the end I decided to go with Dueling because IC doesn’t affect Illusionary Counter and better Shatter capability would augment the build better.

Looks kinda neat! I’m eager to see more rabid builds out there.

Have you thought about using the new and improved “Furious Interruption” in place of Deceptive Evasion? I was thinking it might work well with the Signet of Domination and Magic Bullet that your build uses.

Sinaya.4201:

Looks kinda neat! I’m eager to see more rabid builds out there.

Have you thought about using the new and improved “Furious Interruption” in place of Deceptive Evasion? I was thinking it might work well with the Signet of Domination and Magic Bullet that your build uses.

I think Furious Interruption is very much a junk trait still, because Mesmers tend to have weak autoattacks and rely on Illusions to deal damage. It is the same here. Besides, Deceptive Evasion is far too important if you plan to use Shatter skills regularly.

Signet of Domination is there mostly for the CondDmg boost. Whether that’s worth a slot or not I don’t know, perhaps it would be better served with Decoy or something.

If you’re interested i’m testing something very similar.
- iDuelist can reach 7-8 bleeding if you use RAMPAGER instead of the classic rabid.
- You can boost this damage using Afflicted/Centaur/Krait for +45% bleeding duration

Don’t tell anyone but condition duration works on clones and phantasms xD

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/mesmer/Guide-Illusionary-Bomberman-PvX-build/first#post2278805

Mei Mato.5478:

Don’t tell anyone but condition duration works on clones and phantasms xD

Old news.

+45% is a bit pointless because unless you get a full extra second you won’t get an extra tick (usually, there’s something else that governs this that can let you get the extra tick but it’s rather random). You’re better off getting 2 Lyssa, 2 Afflicted and 2 Krait.

Besides, the idea of this build is to boost Confusion and Torment duration. If you want a more Bleeding-focused build, go with the Staff as your main weapon (a.k.a. the typical Condition Mesmer build).

Rampager has less CondDmg than Rabid, and has Power instead of Toughness which is much less useful to a Condition Mesmer. There’s also Chaos 25 (if you’re going the Staff Mesmer route), and in WvW you can also eat food that increases your CondDmg based on your Toughness.

+45% is a bit pointless because unless you get a full extra second you won’t get an extra tick […]

I usually try a thing before comment it. But if you don’t want to try it and instead focus only on theorycrafting look at both build and their damage. Look how much “pointless” is my staff#1 spam and look the bleeding (Plus I pick the extra bounce trait).

http://en.gw2skills.net/editor/?fgAQNAraWlwzqqHVzgGb9IyJFMn0hSx15dlegb52FC-T0AAzCpIKS9l7LTRyvsfNqYVxpiJCvKA (this is your build)

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fgAQNAsaWl0zKoXTTmGb9IipCBHqHYX25dlegb52FC-TsAg1CpIgR5jzHDMyZszMEZJycBA (this is my build)

Besides, the idea of this build is to boost Confusion and Torment duration.

Then mate put a Battle sigil on both weapons instead of Earth, and Corruption instead of Paralization.
Don’t pick the pistol and even the trait that boost it, because with 50% crit. chance your iDuelist will put an average of 3-4 bleeding instead of 7-8 with rampager with rabid jewel (the reason for pick rampager instead of rabid… not for the staff users).

If you want a more Bleeding-focused build, go with the Staff as your main weapon (a.k.a. the typical Condition Mesmer build).

I tried and I didn’t like it at all, it’s VERY slow. I prefer 1 button = LOT of bleeding stacks.

Rampager has less CondDmg than Rabid, and has Power instead of Toughness which is much less useful to a Condition Mesmer.

True, but Rampager paired with Phantasmal Fury makes iDuelists hit like a truck… with bleeding. A LOT of bleeding stacks. Other than this, power scales poor with conditions, you’re perfectly right, but it counts! At a certain degree cond.damage has a sort of cap, I think this value gets less benefits over 1250 cond.damage.

For Toughness the thing is different, I don’t play WvW often but I spend the most of the time in sPvP, so I prefer to burst down at maximum speed instead of being more tanky. Since Toughness boost to conditions is ridiculous.
Think about my build like a conditionmancer glasscannon where you only rely on stay out of LoS and with high-mobility and stopping power so you can handle the fight.