A clone is not a part of the mesmer.

A clone is not a part of the mesmer.

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Posted by: SteepledHat.1345

SteepledHat.1345

They’re linked, but not the same. Here’s my thing.

1. Clones/phantasms move around on their own.
2. The skills of clones/phantasms require a LoS to be successful. They have to see the target of their attacks to work.
3. Clones/phantasms can be inflicted with conditions.
4. A mesmer can shatter clones/phantasms even if we’re blinded. Also the mesmer need not have LoS. So it must be work of the clones/phantasms.
5. A phantasm continues to fight it’s target even if the mesmer that conjured it breaks LoS with the target.

So clearly they’re a separate entity from the mesmer.

So it follows… why the hell should I have to see my target to summon a phantasm. Even if I can’t see them, the phantasm should still spawn. It’s separate from me, the mesmer.

The only counter argument I could come up with is that clones/phantasms despawn when a mesmer dies. But that is the only way they’re linked after conjuring.

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Posted by: Pip Squeak.3418

Pip Squeak.3418

I approve this message! (also why are they so slow when you shatter them…) “lawl look at those clones i’ll just run [trollface.jpg]”

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Posted by: SteepledHat.1345

SteepledHat.1345

I’m surprised they aren’t calling for our shatters to be nerfed too. I bet we won’t be able to shatter blind next patch.

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Posted by: Ryuujin.8236

Ryuujin.8236

I’m surprised they aren’t calling for our shatters to be nerfed too.

They are in the sPvP forum.

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Posted by: SteepledHat.1345

SteepledHat.1345

Of course. Of course they are.

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Posted by: Gaiawolf.8261

Gaiawolf.8261

You need to see your target to lock the illusion into his mind. Mesmer illusions are not physical constructs of light created and animated by the mesmer like in DnD. That would suck. You would have to concentrate on their movements instead of being able to use your other skills, because they don’t have their own minds.

Instead, they are mental apparitions that are given a visual presence and behavior by the target’s mind under the effects of your magic. They are only visible because your magic gives their mind the ability and compulsion to create them.

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Posted by: Moxic.5892

Moxic.5892

Clones/Illusions are constructs that exist outside of the mind, else the shatter effects would not be AoE. Also, everyone can see the illusions, so obviously the effect is not only on the targeted mob/player. If the targeted player/mob was the only one who could see, affect, and defeat the illusions, maybe we would have less to complain about (aside from the AoE shatter nerf that would entail).

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Posted by: Gaiawolf.8261

Gaiawolf.8261

They are ilusionary constructs, but they are not created solely by the mesmer like typical illusions. They are created by the target’s mind under the effects of the mesmer’s spell. Simply, the mesmer spell gives the target’s mind the power and compulsion to create the aparrition in the world.

Only solution I can come with that explains the current mechanic.

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