Guild Wars 2

Why is it that Illusionary Retribution is on all shatter skills, but Shattered Strength is only for illusions shattered? For a GM minor this trait is decent, but not that strong. It would be infinitely better, however, if it would proc on all shatter skills instead of just illusions shattered. So at least it would reward players for taking a risk and being in melee range when using IP. That or make it 2 stacks of might? Just my thoughts.

Also sorry if this sounds confusing, I’m a bit tired.

I…fail to understand what you’re trying to say.

I’m saying Shattered Strength should give us a bit more might, and you can help solve that by making it have synergy with IP.

I think he’s saying that when traited with IP, Illusionary Retribution stacks confusion for each clone and the mesmer itself. But Shattered Strength only provides might for each clone and not for the memser shattering off himself.

However, iirc, Illusionary Retribution doesn’t stack confusion from the mesmer’s self shatter. I could be misremembering or misunderstanding the op.

SteepledHat.1345:

However, iirc, Illusionary Retribution doesn’t stack confusion from the mesmer’s self shatter. I could be misremembering or misunderstanding the op.

It does I just tested it.

Raunchy.6891:

I’m saying Shattered Strength should give us a bit more might, and you can help solve that by making it have synergy with IP.

Shattered strength is a potentially extremely powerful trait, so it needs to be handled carefully. It used to be worse, it was buffed in a patch to provide 3 stacks of might per illusion shattered. This lasted for about 3 weeks of hilarity with shatter mesmers having >15 permanent stacks of might, and >20 while bursting, before it was nerfed.

Shatters are already very strong. The weaknesses of shatter builds lie elsewhere than their capability for damage. This is a trait that could easily push shatter damage from very strong, to unbalanced.

Then his remarks are probably about that inconsistency. If it is reconciled you can expect it to be a nerf to IR rather than a buffing SS. But I doubt they’ll do anything at all.

SteepledHat.1345:

Then his remarks are probably about that inconsistency. If it is reconciled you can expect it to be a nerf to IR rather than a buffing SS. But I doubt they’ll do anything at all.

They are different traits with different mechanics. One adds an outgoing effect to the shatter, the other is consistent with every other self buffing trait that stacks cumulatively with shatters.

I know. That’s why I doubt they’d change SS….

Pyroathiest.4168:

Raunchy.6891:

I’m saying Shattered Strength should give us a bit more might, and you can help solve that by making it have synergy with IP.

Shattered strength is a potentially extremely powerful trait, so it needs to be handled carefully. It used to be worse, it was buffed in a patch to provide 3 stacks of might per illusion shattered. This lasted for about 3 weeks of hilarity with shatter mesmers having >15 permanent stacks of might, and >20 while bursting, before it was nerfed.

Shatters are already very strong. The weaknesses of shatter builds lie elsewhere than their capability for damage. This is a trait that could easily push shatter damage from very strong, to unbalanced.

I’m seeing this more as a weakness in the trait itself rather than in shatters. The two stacks thing was just something else that popped into my head. If anything it should just be consistent with Illusionary Retribution.