Alacrity on allies?

Alacrity on allies?

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Posted by: The V.8759

The V.8759

Hey guys!

Sorry if I’m late to the party, but I would like to talk about alacrity. There was a huge discussion some time ago when they nerfed it, rendering it less useful. Now my complaint is not about the recharge reduction, no it’s about the ability to give alacrity to allies.

The only way currently we can give it to allies is by All’s Well That Ends Well and Well of Recall. Now for calculations:
Well of Recall
(7 * 1.33)-7 = 2.31s. With a skill with 35s cooldown you shave off not even 2 and half seconds of cooldown for you and allies.

All’s Well That Ends Well
(2*1.33)-2 = 0.66s. You get rid of 0.66s of cooldown! That is just purely pathetic.

To make all matters worse, when you spam all wells (including Recall), your allies have to:
- Stand 8 seconds on one spot to gain a total of 15s alacrity, of which they hold only 7 seconds when they can ‘leave the area’
- Only 4.95s cooldown reduction in total while having to spam ALL your skills

Conclusion
I don’t mind the 33% recharge. As a mesmer you have enough alacrity for yourself (at least in my opinion) due to shattering. However we can barely apply it to allies, the ammount we can apply to allies is rather neglectable.

Suggestions
The goal of my suggestions is to give allies more access to alacrity without it being ‘passive’. Giving allies alacrity should not become a thing that is easy to achieve, but rather you have to spec for it.
- Step 1: All’s Well That Ends Well gives 4s of alacrity to you and allies.
- Step 2: Improved Alacrity increases duration by 25% and increases its effectiveness to 50% recharge reduction.
- Step 3: Be happy.

This is ment to be a PvP related topic

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Posted by: Fay.2357

Fay.2357

With a standard PvE rotation using 3 wells and 2 shield phantasms, alacrity is permanent on all sub-group members.

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Posted by: The V.8759

The V.8759

Sorry, forgot to mention that this topic mostly relates to PvP.

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Posted by: Fay.2357

Fay.2357

Sorry, forgot to mention that this topic mostly relates to PvP.

Ah, well, that changes things I suppose.

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Posted by: Zenith.7301

Zenith.7301

I’d rather they increase core mesmer capabilities rather than make Alacrity even more essential to the class’s performance.

Seeing a daredevil staff autoattack with ZERO stacks of might doing 12k damage on the final twirl (that also reflects projectiles) of the autoattack chain makes me nauseous.

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Posted by: Xyonon.3987

Xyonon.3987

With a standard PvE rotation using 3 wells and 2 shield phantasms, alacrity is permanent on all sub-group members.

If everything goes accordingly that only results into 107% alacrity for 5 allies (incl. you), so “just” enough for the ideal situation. If anyone misses a well he’s “penetrated”.

I tend to go for 3 avengers and calamity instead. Safer and just a damage shift from swordy to calamity, but aoe and better with CS.

If you are solo – Recall AND 3 avengers ofc.

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Posted by: Weerus.3701

Weerus.3701

Making is shareble with Signet of Inspiration would fix it a little bit

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Posted by: Fay.2357

Fay.2357

Making is shareble with Signet of Inspiration would fix it a little bit

On a scale of 1 to celery elery, that would be celery elery broken.

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Posted by: The V.8759

The V.8759

With a standard PvE rotation using 3 wells and 2 shield phantasms, alacrity is permanent on all sub-group members.

If everything goes accordingly that only results into 107% alacrity for 5 allies (incl. you), so “just” enough for the ideal situation. If anyone misses a well he’s “penetrated”.

I tend to go for 3 avengers and calamity instead. Safer and just a damage shift from swordy to calamity, but aoe and better with CS.

If you are solo – Recall AND 3 avengers ofc.

Alacrity is a support mechanic → Supports are for teamfights (at least not 1v1) → Avengers die from all the AoE damage or have to be shattered in order to heal yourself a bit

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Posted by: Fay.2357

Fay.2357

With a standard PvE rotation using 3 wells and 2 shield phantasms, alacrity is permanent on all sub-group members.

If everything goes accordingly that only results into 107% alacrity for 5 allies (incl. you), so “just” enough for the ideal situation. If anyone misses a well he’s “penetrated”.

I tend to go for 3 avengers and calamity instead. Safer and just a damage shift from swordy to calamity, but aoe and better with CS.

If you are solo – Recall AND 3 avengers ofc.

Alacrity is a support mechanic -> Supports are for teamfights (at least not 1v1) -> Avengers die from all the AoE damage or have to be shattered in order to heal yourself a bit

Don’t worry about Xyonon’s response — he also missed that you’re talking about PvP, and was responding to me with respect to PvE performance.

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Posted by: Weerus.3701

Weerus.3701

Making is shareble with Signet of Inspiration would fix it a little bit

On a scale of 1 to celery elery, that would be celery elery broken.

How about using shatter skills grants same (maybe halved)alacrity to allies on range?

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Posted by: Fay.2357

Fay.2357

Making is shareble with Signet of Inspiration would fix it a little bit

On a scale of 1 to celery elery, that would be celery elery broken.

How about using shatter skills grants same (maybe halved)alacrity to allies on range?

Now that’s a more interesting and balanceable idea. I think something like that would need to be implemented as a trait, specifically a trait with drawbacks.

“Shatter skills now apply alacrity to allies in range as well as the mesmer. Alacrity duration from shatters is halved.”