Guild Wars 2

Any explorable group I look for only wants good dps classes, warrior, thief etc.. They never want a mesmer. I’ve seriously only done the Orr dungeon once in story and never in explore this includes every other dungeon as well. Is this a problem for anyone else or is it just me?

Might be for every other mesmer. Mesmers don’t have high poping numbers so people kitten avoid them in dungeons.

I have no problems with playing explorables as mesmer. And i never had. Be it pugs or not. Also with proper items and trait distribution mesmer can show big numbers too.

Mesmer is more than capable of dishing out tons of dmg and doing it safely, just seems like people have this opinion that mesmer is bad in anything pve based solely off of a notion that mesmer can’t tag mobs in DE’s. I have never had trouble with either dungeons or events, is it as straight forward as facerolling your keyboard nope but the class is a excellent addition to any team in any game mode. If anyone tells you they don’t want a mesmer in their run they are simply just doing what comes natural to many mmo players, hear a rumor and go with it.

Mesmers can buff allies offensively (give might and fury, I think the best buffs in the game) and pull out 3 warlocks that each do 9k+ edit: up to 15k dmg every several seconds…

I doubt see how you should have problems finding groups! :O

I know I make a huge difference in dungeons.

My mesmer currently has 7/20/0/20/5 (filling out power tree) and runs projectile reflect. (gs/sword-focus)

I spend most of my time early in more annoying pulls running interference and neutralizing ranged and direct damage casters, as well as using the copious defensive capabilities of both weapons to do a combination of kiting and face-tanking.

Even when there isn’t a pressing need for a given set of combo field moves, I try to maintain a steady rotation to keep the fields up.

It works out very well. Even if the boss does not use projectiles, tossing feedback on him stacks confusion like crazy and does insane damage.

Lol I never ran into this problem. Though after a while I normally dungeon run with a fairly regular group or two of guildies.

hmm just once I got turned down as a mesmer, they told me they want something with heavy armor. Oh boy if I had silver for every warrior and guardian I had to ress I would be rich

edit: out of curiosity, how do you get your warlock to crit for 15k? My biggest crit is 9k with power build, when the mob had decent amount of conditions and about 10 stacks of vulnerability, I had both +15% dmg to phantasms and pretty much all traits for phantasm damage. Around 85% crit damage.

I have this problem. not just with Mesmer but with every class – its probably just the server I’m on but getting a story team in order to do explorable is sometimes a real struggle.

I really hope I don’t get parties who refuse Mesmers to make matters worse ^^- but I don’t see the logic in this. I haven’t reached lvl 80 or anything with my Mes, but it’s quite obvious they’re great at applying conditions. With blind, confusion & chaos armor you’ve pretty much got everything you need to neutralise a mob. Granted you can’t keep it up all the time but it contributes just like you’re supposed to in a party. I’m told at high levels they don’t do as much in the way of damage as some other classes, but their party support imo is through the roof. What exactly is the vendetta against support in this game?

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I have this problem. not just with Mesmer but with every class – its probably just the server I’m on but getting a story team in order to do explorable is sometimes a real struggle.

I really hope I don’t get parties who refuse Mesmers to make matters worse ^^- but I don’t see the logic in this. I haven’t reached lvl 80 or anything with my Mes, but it’s quite obvious they’re great at applying conditions. With blind, confusion & chaos armor you’ve pretty much got everything you need to neutralise a mob. Granted you can’t keep it up all the time but it contributes just like you’re supposed to in a party. I’m told at high levels they don’t do as much in the way of damage as some other classes, but their party support imo is through the roof. What exactly is the vendetta against support in this game?

I don’t find mesmer damage to be so much lower than other classes, I think most people that feel the dmg is lower are basing it on the spawn phantasms style of play and they can’t just keep up their phantasms 100% of the time because of AOE. I never relied on phantasms as my primary source of dmg instead choosing to focus more on shattering, still using the same kind of power/prec/crit dmg gear as anyone else but when you can spawn clones on top of the boss and immediately shatter then follow that up with a phantasm spawn until mind wrack is off cd it keeps the dmg stream flowing pretty smoothly.

I’m pretty sure everyone actually loves Mesmers in their dungeon group due to their plethora of support utilities. Null field, Feedback, Chaos Storm and Time Warp are all incredibly useful to the group.

My character is a level 80 engineer and I get passed over for dungeon groups all the time (except by my guildmates; they are often very willing to help with dungeons). Yesterday, I whispered to 4 non-guild lfg requests in a span of 15 minutes and I was completely ignored.

So, yes. Except for guild dungeon runs, I am finding it quite difficult to hook up with other groups. Rejecting a request based solely on profession is just plain ignorant. If played and built correctly, ANY profession can dominate. Insofar as mesmers, there are several in our guild and I love running with them. I enjoy being with capable players who truly enjoy the game, regardless of profession.

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hmm just once I got turned down as a mesmer, they told me they want something with heavy armor. Oh boy if I had silver for every warrior and guardian I had to ress I would be rich

edit: out of curiosity, how do you get your warlock to crit for 15k? My biggest crit is 9k with power build, when the mob had decent amount of conditions and about 10 stacks of vulnerability, I had both +15% dmg to phantasms and pretty much all traits for phantasm damage. Around 85% crit damage.

I have lvl 80 berserker gear and berserker accessories, rune of scholar x6, bloodlust, all the offensive traits for phantoms / illusions, except 20% recharge increase… probably other things I can ’t remember…

However, I’m thinking that should be enough, because I manage to crit 15k dmg with warlocks USING a power, precision, condition BLUE staff with only a minotaur steak buff… so I wouldn’t be surprised, if I had a much better % crit staff and food, of my warlocks critting for 20k dmg each OR MORE.

Such juicy dmg, 60k every several seconds, yum yum!

carabidus.6214:

My character is a level 80 engineer and I get passed over for dungeon groups all the time (except by my guildmates; they are often very willing to help with dungeons). Yesterday, I whispered to 4 non-guild lfg requests in a span of 15 minutes and I was completely ignored.

Those people are clueless, if anything, the amount of damage power engi grenadier brings is ridiculous. Not only that, he will make everyone in the group hit harder (10 stacks of vulnerability on defiant mobs easy, 20+ on anything else just from grenades).

Mesmers are not meant for damage (even if they can deal a decent amount), but for their utility.
Good Mesmers are super survivable. Not by their armor, but mobility, stun breaker and teleport abilities – especially with the Staff. I know most ppl don’t like Mantras, but Inspiration IV + X with Healing Mantras makes you pretty durable. For even more healing, you can bind MoPain (Insp IV) to another slot. Duelling VII might be too expensive for most players.

But the utility … AoE Stealth, Blink, Portal, Veil, MeatShields, ReflectDome, ChaosField, TimeWarp … I find dungeon parties because I’m a mesmer.

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and condition removal. iDisenchanter can be strong. And is the most useful spell at the CoE explo buffing golem.

We can make ppl Chaos armour why would someone not want use O.o

Leku.5012:

I have no problems with playing explorables as mesmer. And i never had. Be it pugs or not. Also with proper items and trait distribution mesmer can show big numbers too.

But other people have no idea what your numbers are, so it doesn’t do you any good.

Nretep.2564:

Mesmers are not meant for damage (even if they can deal a decent amount), but for their utility.
Good Mesmers are super survivable. Not by their armor, but mobility, stun breaker and teleport abilities – especially with the Staff. I know most ppl don’t like Mantras, but Inspiration IV + X with Healing Mantras makes you pretty durable. For even more healing, you can bind MoPain (Insp IV) to another slot. Duelling VII might be too expensive for most players.

But the utility … AoE Stealth, Blink, Portal, Veil, MeatShields, ReflectDome, ChaosField, TimeWarp … I find dungeon parties because I’m a mesmer.

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and condition removal. iDisenchanter can be strong. And is the most useful spell at the CoE explo buffing golem.

Mesmers have great self-survivability. Which is pointless in pve and certainly less useful than an ele who can continuously spam AoE prot/regen/cond removal.

What are you talking about? Since game launched i haven’t even bothered creating other classes and all i’m doing is duneons. I haven’t seen a single person saying mes aren’t welcome, i actually see lots of people looking for at least 1 mes especially for Arah.