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And not because a main hand pistol would be cool (which it would be, dagger would also be good).

I feel like at the moment, there are 4 cool (and unique) off-hands, particularly with the off-hand sword buffs the last patch.

Scepter, with its mix of clone generation and conditions, seems to only excel in the niche of “condition on clone death/replacement” builds.

So it seems to me, most of the time you are stuck with taking some combination of MH Sword, Staff, or Greatsword.

I feel like with only these 3 weapons plus sometimes the offhand of your choice, your options are really constrained. For example something like iWarden -> Magic Bullet -> iDuelist could be really fun with condition/bleed or straight phantasm if we had another good MH weapon, but it isn’t possible to do this.

I typed this since ANET has said in a recent blog they are planning to add more skills to the game

This is just how it feels to me, what do you think?

Edit: cleaned up my typos and tried to simplify the points a bit

I don’t feel mesmers need another MH weapon. It would all be solved if they’d improve both scepter and sword autoattack, and make Confusing Images with 2s cast time.

Scepter is a meh choice just because is the slowest weapon of all game for what you get, not because is not a weak weapon.

MH Pistol: fast and furious ranged weapon as a niche weapon we’re currently missing.

Mesmers could use another ranged MH weapon since our only option is scepter.

MH Pistol comes to mind.

What I have really wanted for a very long time is for mesmers to be able to use the shortbow. With a blink and some mid range aoe.

I would love a shortbow too, or a rifle could be interesting

Main hand pistol. Ability 2 will be the duelist ability but instead of distorting you like blurred frenzy you could absorb projectiles or something since it will root you.

If it doesn’t root you … well it would be awesome just as a burst skill I guess.

Main Hand Pistol

1: Mindburst – shoot a bullet at your foe
> Mind shot – shoot a bullet with chance to put one of the following conditions on foe ( Confusion, Blind, vulnerability)

2: Unload – shoot multiple bullets, if OH pistol is equipped shoot from both pistols, doubling the damage

3: Illusion – Shoot your foe, stunning him, then teleport to your foe leaving a clone at your position.

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Main Hand Pistol

1: Mindburst – shoot a bullet at your foe
> Mind shot – shoot a bullet with chance to put one of the following conditions on foe ( Confusion, Blind, vulnerability)

2: Unload – shoot multiple bullets, if OH pistol is equipped shoot from both pistols, doubling the damage

3: Illusion – Shoot your foe, stunning him, then teleport to your foe leaving a clone at your position.

I like the idea but it’s too similar to thiefs MH pistol skills. I would rather have more tricks on the skills which make it more unique. Maybe bouncing bullets, bullets that blasts on impact etc

of course it would be fun, how we didn’t get a single one in 1 year is a mystery tho

MH Pistol.
15char

MH Focus.
I want my character to have the option to charge into combat while holding TWO mugs of Beer!

And if the auto-attack for a MH Focus is to throw said Focus at the enemy where it proceeds to blow up for AoE damage? All the better.

Bah! MH Pistol (boring)

I’ll just quote myself from a thread on this already done-
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Ok ok, I’ll bite.

Here’s what the postol looks like, notice the mesmer in this video is using Skill #3: Let’s call it Downing Big Birds (Notice at 40 seconds the good use of Distortion and Illusionary Persona)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmqNMc0IDWE

Now, Skill 2: Fires out a stick with a flag on it that reads “BANG”. A clone pops up behind the target and the target remains confused.

http://www.destructoid.com/elephant/ul/100915-jokers-gag-gun-bang-fatallity.jpg
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From what I’ve heard, the intention is that one day all classess will have access to all weapon options on all hands.

Not sure I agree. Fun, maybe. But it’s also fun to have balanced weapons which are actually all useful to an equal degree, and ideally useful without having to specifically trait for them.

In other words, the dev time used to pseudo-balance the new weapon’s abilities I’d rather see invested into balancing the current weapons.

Not that I wouldn’t enjoy a Mainhand Pistol (although this makes me wonder, we already got a 900 range MH weapon) or a Chakra or something like that, but meh… we got plenty weapons already.

Carighan.6758:

Not sure I agree. Fun, maybe. But it’s also fun to have balanced weapons which are actually all useful to an equal degree, and ideally useful without having to specifically trait for them.

In other words, the dev time used to pseudo-balance the new weapon’s abilities I’d rather see invested into balancing the current weapons.

Not that I wouldn’t enjoy a Mainhand Pistol (although this makes me wonder, we already got a 900 range MH weapon) or a Chakra or something like that, but meh… we got plenty weapons already.

I dunno more variety would be great. Sure fix what’s not balanced yet but give more variety would also be helpful.
There’re just so much builds one can have with so much weapon combos. Cranking the number of possible combos up and it will be much more interesting to face someone.
Like in GW1 where you didn’t know the enemies skills and had to learn by looking what they use.
Maybe not add weapons NOW but later down the line with new traits and new utilities to give more build variety which has always been my main con for GW2..I like the whole build wars thing.

honestly i want a whip for the mesmer.i see it all the time in pve on npc’s and a whip would match the mesmer perfectly.

selan.8354:

honestly i want a whip for the mesmer.i see it all the time in pve on npc’s and a whip would match the mesmer perfectly.

Got to agree, the Whip would be a nice, unique weapon for a Mesmer.

selan.8354:

honestly i want a whip for the mesmer.i see it all the time in pve on npc’s and a whip would match the mesmer perfectly.

Even if they add it, its probably gonna be a 600 range weapon so meh

Nuka Cola.8520:

selan.8354:

honestly i want a whip for the mesmer.i see it all the time in pve on npc’s and a whip would match the mesmer perfectly.

Even if they add it, its probably gonna be a 600 range weapon so meh

Personally, I think Mesmers are built to be mid-range fighters who jump in and out of long/medium/short range. I think a 600 range weapon wouldn’t be that bad considering we have a Greatsword for long range.

True Seeker.3682:

Nuka Cola.8520:

selan.8354:

honestly i want a whip for the mesmer.i see it all the time in pve on npc’s and a whip would match the mesmer perfectly.

Even if they add it, its probably gonna be a 600 range weapon so meh

Personally, I think Mesmers are built to be mid-range fighters who jump in and out of long/medium/short range. I think a 600 range weapon wouldn’t be that bad considering we have a Greatsword for long range.

We already have a good MH close range weapon, the sword. We have nothing for ranged MH, that’s why a pistol (and hopefully its not sucky like scepter) with 900 range would be better as the first added weapon, then they could expand with with a whip. Would also like to have a rifle, magic rifles would fit mesmers nicely me think

Rope dart or meteor hammer.

1200 range, traitable to 1500 (hey, it’s a magic rope!)

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Main Hand Pistol

1: Mindburst – shoot a bullet at your foe
> Mind shot – shoot a bullet with chance to put one of the following conditions on foe ( Confusion, Blind, vulnerability)

2: Unload – shoot multiple bullets, if OH pistol is equipped shoot from both pistols, doubling the damage

3: Illusion – Shoot your foe, stunning him, then teleport to your foe leaving a clone at your position.

Aww no bullettime moves? Like, dodging in your moving direction while shooting (with sunglasses) and going pew pew? Or a barrage skill like the rangers, only with blurple bullet rain?

But seriously, don’t we all want new weapons? On every class? It’s just a matter of time. It even doesn’t have to be a MH pistol imo, any weapon will bring some new variety into the game.

Wait I just had a brilliant idea…..

MAINHAND PISTOL!!!! omg how has that been missed this long!!

It transferred to other forum sections. I just saw it mentioned in a thread over in GW2 Discussion not to long ago. Now, besides that obvious hookup, I’d like Fans. Yesterday.

i want a focus mainhand !
and yeah fans or harps (i am not talking about the legendary focus: probably the worst legendary available).

Duel Quip <3

What i would like to see. The offhand skills would remain unchanged as this would mean that it wouldnt change up X/Pistol combos

Auto Attack:
Chain 1: Fire Shot X damage plus Bleeding(2stacks, 1 second)
Chain 2: Fire Shot X damage Plus Bleeding(2stacks, 1 second)
Chain 3: Fire shot X damage Plus Confusion(1 stack, 2seconds) Plus Range Clone

Not quite sure what the 2nd skill could be though

The 3rd one could be different depending on the offhand used example:

Pistol/Pistol: Blistering Barrage – AoE attack, Fires both pistols for X number of seconds causes random conditions to those damaged

Pistol/Torch: Blinding Shot – Fire shot at target, Stealth for X number of seconds and then fire a shot that blinds target upon stealth exit

There’s one problem with a “Skill #3 changes per Offhand” concept, though. Namely, we already step on Thief’s toes somewhat, with our Stealth options. Doing a “dual skill” on Mesmer means we really step on a Thief’s funbags.

Well I’m sorry but jeeeeesus christ I want to use unload with the mesmer’s pistol. Duelist is like the coolest sounding thing in the entire game.

Advent.6193:

There’s one problem with a “Skill #3 changes per Offhand” concept, though. Namely, we already step on Thief’s toes somewhat, with our Stealth options. Doing a “dual skill” on Mesmer means we really step on a Thief’s funbags.

Right so because a Thief has #3 skills that change it means that no others can? I am sorry but i don’t agree with that, sure if the skills were exactly the same, same name, same effect and such then i could agree.

I wouldnt call them having 3# skills that change really something about them, surely Stealth, Steal and such are what makes Thieves not them having a skill that changes.

ArmageddonAsh.6430:

Right so because a Thief has #3 skills that change it means that no others can? I am sorry but i don’t agree with that, sure if the skills were exactly the same, same name, same effect and such then i could agree.

I wouldnt call them having 3# skills that change really something about them, surely Stealth, Steal and such are what makes Thieves not them having a skill that changes.

I’d agree with you, if it weren’t for the fact that they’re the only class with that cute little trick. And that’s the rub. Not to mention, we’re Mesmers … we’re indirect, mindkittening folk. We’d be the ones to blip to the side, leave a Clone, and then Confusion-shot a fool in the head. /shrug

In all seriousness a new MH weapon would have to meet the following two requirements.

1: be thematic with either the ‘dueling’ or ‘magic user’ concepts

2: be logically accessible to 2 other professions. I realize the rifle and mace break that rule but its a good guideline.

Given what evidence we have. I would say that if you truly want MH pistol, then what you must do is take every profession and find a current weapon outside of their current pool that is logical for them to use. That would be close to the model which has been presented before us.

I’d love to see mainhand focus with:

1. Ray in front or bouncing bold that hits 3 targets max and does damage + bleeding/cripple.
2. Aoe field with a 10 second cooldown, something similar to shatterstone of elementalist (#2 scepter water skill) with purple ice spikes instead of blue ice ones.
These spikes deal more damage based on how long you hold it up to 4 seconds. Maybe remove 1 boon on hit could also be nice or, when holding longer than 2 seconds it could apply a blast finisher.
3. A projectile that pierces and does 0.5/1 sec daze with a 900 or 1200 yards range. This projectile doesnt require target and so can be shot where the aim is set to. Cooldown of 20 seconds would be nice.

Now I would also love to see a remake on temporal curtain. As I’m in love with mesmer, I still don’t like the meta of it. I would love to see mesmer being more based on interrupts and so would love to see temporal curtain to do a 0.5 sec daze when moving through it. Maybe have the cooldown increased to 30.

I just want a mainhand pistol, my phantasm has a much cooler looking attack than me

Badger.3279:

I just want a mainhand pistol, my phantasm has a much cooler looking attack than me

I want MH Pistol so i can run Dual Quip (i am pink with pink hair) it would look SICK ^^

We already have Staff, Scepter, and Greatsword for ranged. A MH pistol is a bad idea for this reason alone.

Axe or Mace are the least-usable MH weapons in the game, so probably one of those two.

I’m ready!

as much as everyone wants another MH pistol, what we need is another melee weapon. Mace or Axe preferably, with more control, possibly a stun or an evade. Scepter needs some tweaking as well, but we def need another melee option

I’d rather have another melee/cleave option too. If greatsword is ranged on a mes, they could make long/shortbow a shotgun-type weapon on mesmers. Focus could fit too.

Every other class has a strong melee setup where they either don’t have to swap(because of strong autos) or can swap to another melee set. Mesmers have to swap often since the production of clones/phants is what gates our offense and defense, but when we swap out of MH sword (which isn’t even that good anymore) and want/have to stay in melee, such as in wvw pug groups, what other option is there? Staff is the next best option but I’d say it is optimally used midrange, good luck hitting anything with WoC when 2 opposing groups do a pass-through, and then its only aoe is on a ~30s cd.

This lack of a 2nd melee set IMO forces mesmers into the range/support role in gvgs and wvw in general.

Melee pistol anyone? Cleaving bullets?

Esplen.3940:

Melee pistol anyone? Cleaving bullets?

Or punching pistol?
Punch boxing as autoattack?

I love the idea of a pistol obviously, however even without a pistol as a consideration there is definitely room for another weapon such as a bow or perhaps even another melee option.

I COULD see dagger as a possibility…I mean why not? Dagger doesn’t fit the duelist theme but it fits more then axe or mace and as mesmer are kind of sneaky themselves…well I would like the look of Incinerator =).
Maybe for ranged an entirely new weapon. Ever seen the game Kingdoms of Amalur? The chakrams from this game are just awesome and the only way I played the game(for everyone who has not seen them http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVOhs4uSy0A )…I mean why not? =)

As much as I would love to see a unique weapon. It simply wont happen unless all the other classes got one as well.

Main hand focus! Us Mesmers are the kings of confusion. We’ll imagine how confused our enemy will be when we throw beer and harps at them!

Chakrams could fit Mesmers, Elementalists and potentially Rangers?
I would put them at 600 range for Mesmers, 1200 for Elementalists and 1000 for Rangers or something like that.

Hexxen.7216:

As much as I would love to see a unique weapon. It simply wont happen unless all the other classes got one as well.

Sure add it to Elementalist and Necro as well.
Warrior+Guardian+Ranger+Thief should get crossbow imho. Engineer would be happy to get ANY new weapon be it hammer or mace or anything like that…maybe a crossbow fits too..dunno but there are enough possibilities for future weapons.
Maybe one day we’ll be getting something new..Just saying I’d love the idea not that it should happen right now.

I would love Shield and Mace combo for defense, it could be a real defensive option for boons, lower damage, a few stuns/knockbacks and such. I would love the Hammer as well as some of them have great skins

Further on the Main Hand Focus ideas, though unsure of strength as the only skill that does direct damage will be the Skill #1. Unsure of strength/overpowered-state of the ideas off the top of my head.

Skill #1 Overload (Auto-attack): You throw a clone of your Focus at your target, which explodes on contact (think Grenades). AoE medium damage of up to 5 targets with no tracking. Random condition between Torment x1, Confusion x1, and Weakness x1 (4s duration each). Projectile Combo: 20% chance. Range 1200. Cast Time: 3/4s.
Skill #2 Images of Remorse (Clone): Up to three targets in a selected targeted area gain Weakness for 5s, Torment x3 for 4s and have a Clone of you targeting them. Up to three allies in the area gain 5s of Regeneration. Cast time: 1/4s. CD: 13 seconds. Range: 1200
Skill #3 Web of Disruption: AoE zone that cripples targets for 2 seconds and applies a 1s effect/condition that interrupts the next skill used/being used (and removes itself once this occurs). Pulses both the Cripple and the Effect/Condition Interrupt every second for 2 seconds (initial, at 1 second, at 2 second for at most 3 “hits”). Allies in the zone gain 1s of Aegis per Pulse. 1/2s cast. 20 second CD. Ethereal Combo Field. (Note, creates a field that does work with the Warden’s Feedback trait for reflection).

Has something for the Condition Dmg side, with Torment and a bit of Confusion. Not to mention the conditions from the Chaotic Interruption trait.
Has something for the Power side, ranged AoE damage auto-attack, On-location Clone generation for Mind Wrack, and Interrupts (with the Halting Strike trait).
Has something for Boon-lovers, (Regeneration on Demand, Aegis for Allies, and Bountiful Interruption trait).
Has nothing for the Mobility lover, though.

RE: cloudysan
Dagger actually could work, tbh. Although, I’d be more for that as an OH weapon. Think of it as the main-gauche to our rapier. There is still an argument for MH as well, when one considers weapons like the cinquedea or stiletto.

Would be awesome if Whip autos inflicted bleeding for 2sec and have 5% chance to immobilize target for 1sec. I also would like skill 2 or 3 (if the weapon is MH) to immobilize a target for long duration like 3sec (such as Pin Down) and set them on fire for 3sec