Guild Wars 2

So, there were a load of trait changes and additions and whatnot, but there was one that really caught my eye: Ineptitude.

If you didn’t know, this trait is an altered version of Blinding Befuddlement. Its primary effect is that it causes a couple seconds of confusion on blind. That’s cool, but the really cool part is the secondary effect: Blind foes when you evade or block their attacks. The ICD is not on the mesmer’s ability to blind, but the foe’s ability to be blinded, meaning infinite target cap~

While one can easily imagine dodging about in a WvW zerg and just blind-spamming and confusing the hell outta them, one can also see the synergy it has with traits like Blinding Dissipation. More fun, though, is the synergy with Sword #3, Blurred Frenzy, which causes you to evade everything like a 2.5s dodge.

Anyone else excited to see whether this’ll feel as good or better than Glamour Bombs in WvW?

Yea, expecting to see this. It won’t be near as easy as just dropping a Feedback dome on the enemy was before, but it’ll still be fun. Especially for a Scepter/Torch & Staff build with some decent access to blind.

Although I would say 2 confusion stacks seem weak for a 10 sec ICD. 5 would be much worth it.

StickerHappy.8052:

Although I would say 2 confusion stacks seem weak for a 10 sec ICD. 5 would be much worth it.

The info I’m looking at says 4 seconds of confusion, but it could be incorrect.

Something tells me it might get a small nerf eventually.

Fun fact: Ineptitude is also the name of the trident #2 skill, so mesmers have been technically using this for a long time.

Stacks are something else, but more so it gives us some capability to tag a lot of players and screw up some skill-spammers. Plus, I really want to call myself an Inept Mesmer. Just has a nice ring to it, y’know?

Yamsandjams.3267:

StickerHappy.8052:

Although I would say 2 confusion stacks seem weak for a 10 sec ICD. 5 would be much worth it.

The info I’m looking at says 4 seconds of confusion, but it could be incorrect.

Something tells me it might get a small nerf eventually.

Fun fact: Ineptitude is also the name of the trident #2 skill, so mesmers have been technically using this for a long time.

I am guessing the 4 seconds is after Master of Misdirection. But still, 2 stacks are easily cleansable to an indivdual

StickerHappy.8052:

Yamsandjams.3267:

StickerHappy.8052:

Although I would say 2 confusion stacks seem weak for a 10 sec ICD. 5 would be much worth it.

The info I’m looking at says 4 seconds of confusion, but it could be incorrect.

Something tells me it might get a small nerf eventually.

Fun fact: Ineptitude is also the name of the trident #2 skill, so mesmers have been technically using this for a long time.

I am guessing the 4 seconds is after Master of Misdirection. But still, 2 stacks are easily cleansable to an indivdual

Oh, I read that as seconds, and not stacks. The info I’m looking at says 1 stack for 4 seconds.

Technically, any number of stacks is cleansable to an individual since you only need one condition clear to take care of that. 1 stack or 1500 stacks can be cleansed just as easily… at least conceptually speaking, obviously removing 1500 stacks of confusion would kill you simply from using the condition cleanse.

I think 5 stacks might be too hefty, especially because it’s already giving a fairly high uptime on the confusion (40% if 4 seconds on 10 second ICD is correct), and that’s not considering condition duration extensions. The mesmer also has a variety of other sources of confusion, and they also get a blind on top of that.

Dondagora.9645:

Stacks are something else, but more so it gives us some capability to tag a lot of players and screw up some skill-spammers. Plus, I really want to call myself an Inept Mesmer. Just has a nice ring to it, y’know?

Yes fair points, but the thing is, how does 2 stacks punish skill spammers? You could argue we have a lot of confusion sources now but how many are aoe? Shatters (if you trait in that line) and Mistrust, Everything else is Single target (not sure how many) scepter 3 is aoe but people need to be in a line.

Oh definitely. I, along with yourself, are pretty known to main condition shatter. Based on the thread “How Will Your Build Change” thread, we approach condition shatter differently, but the main difference is that I’ll be using Ineptitude instead of Malicious Sorcery. https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/mesmer/How-Will-YOUR-Build-Change/first#post5175071

I don’t think there’s any ICD on the confusion. That’s why it’s only 1 stack for 4 seconds. I think the ICD is on the block/evasion causing blind. Blurred Frenzy, Blinding Dissipation, Sword4, Scepter2, Aegis and dodging.

MailMail.6534:

Oh definitely. I, along with yourself, are pretty known to main condition shatter. Based on the thread “How Will Your Build Change” thread, we approach condition shatter differently, but the main difference is that I’ll be using Ineptitude instead of Malicious Sorcery. https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/mesmer/How-Will-YOUR-Build-Change/first#post5175071

I don’t think there’s any ICD on the confusion. That’s why it’s only 1 stack for 4 seconds. I think the ICD is on the block/evasion causing blind. Blurred Frenzy, Blinding Dissipation, Sword4, Scepter2, Aegis and dodging.

There is ICD on the confusion (10 secs). It was confirmed on the stream. So yea all those sources are only giving confusion every 10 secs

StickerHappy.8052:

Dondagora.9645:

Stacks are something else, but more so it gives us some capability to tag a lot of players and screw up some skill-spammers. Plus, I really want to call myself an Inept Mesmer. Just has a nice ring to it, y’know?

Yes fair points, but the thing is, how does 2 stacks punish skill spammers? You could argue we have a lot of confusion sources now but how many are aoe? Shatters (if you trait in that line) and Mistrust, Everything else is Single target (not sure how many) scepter 3 is aoe but people need to be in a line.

AoE, sure, but this is capless in potential targets. Say 2~10 Mesmers go all dodge-and-blurred on a zerg and you’ve got potentially 10 stacks across half or more of the zerg. Ideally, of course.

Dondagora.9645:

StickerHappy.8052:

Dondagora.9645:

Stacks are something else, but more so it gives us some capability to tag a lot of players and screw up some skill-spammers. Plus, I really want to call myself an Inept Mesmer. Just has a nice ring to it, y’know?

Yes fair points, but the thing is, how does 2 stacks punish skill spammers? You could argue we have a lot of confusion sources now but how many are aoe? Shatters (if you trait in that line) and Mistrust, Everything else is Single target (not sure how many) scepter 3 is aoe but people need to be in a line.

AoE, sure, but this is capless in potential targets. Say 2~10 Mesmers go all dodge-and-blurred on a zerg and you’ve got potentially 10 stacks across half or more of the zerg. Ideally, of course.

So..the best bang for the buck is run it with other mesmers, so what if you wanna roam?

So i guess 3 stacks will be ideal? right?

StickerHappy.8052:

MailMail.6534:

Oh definitely. I, along with yourself, are pretty known to main condition shatter. Based on the thread “How Will Your Build Change” thread, we approach condition shatter differently, but the main difference is that I’ll be using Ineptitude instead of Malicious Sorcery. https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/mesmer/How-Will-YOUR-Build-Change/first#post5175071

I don’t think there’s any ICD on the confusion. That’s why it’s only 1 stack for 4 seconds. I think the ICD is on the block/evasion causing blind. Blurred Frenzy, Blinding Dissipation, Sword4, Scepter2, Aegis and dodging.

There is ICD on the confusion (10 secs). It was confirmed on the stream. So yea all those sources are only giving confusion every 10 secs

10 seconds not on you, but your target, the same way Chaos Armor works. You can confuse one foe, then you can’t confuse the same foe for another 10 seconds. BUT you can confuse another foe within that ICD of the first foe, therefore: Infinite target cap, just no rapidly-repeatable targets.

StickerHappy.8052:

Dondagora.9645:

Stacks are something else, but more so it gives us some capability to tag a lot of players and screw up some skill-spammers. Plus, I really want to call myself an Inept Mesmer. Just has a nice ring to it, y’know?

Yes fair points, but the thing is, how does 2 stacks punish skill spammers? You could argue we have a lot of confusion sources now but how many are aoe? Shatters (if you trait in that line) and Mistrust, Everything else is Single target (not sure how many) scepter 3 is aoe but people need to be in a line.

Well first of all, if you’re traiting for Ineptitude, you are also getting confusion on shatter and confusion duration increase. These are minor traits. Mistrust only needs you to interrupt one person in a zerge to dump confusion on everyone. And if you interrupt more than one person at the same time in that AOE, that’s 4 stacks… If you’re building around confusion, that’s easy to do now… http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=-R;4k2l31K7BVV71;9;4UTW;0256237156;43t0GT;1bUytbUyt;0Fj5-DOG5;1293949596979M

Thank GOD perplexity isn’t in PvP.

StickerHappy.8052:

Dondagora.9645:

StickerHappy.8052:

Dondagora.9645:

Stacks are something else, but more so it gives us some capability to tag a lot of players and screw up some skill-spammers. Plus, I really want to call myself an Inept Mesmer. Just has a nice ring to it, y’know?

Yes fair points, but the thing is, how does 2 stacks punish skill spammers? You could argue we have a lot of confusion sources now but how many are aoe? Shatters (if you trait in that line) and Mistrust, Everything else is Single target (not sure how many) scepter 3 is aoe but people need to be in a line.

AoE, sure, but this is capless in potential targets. Say 2~10 Mesmers go all dodge-and-blurred on a zerg and you’ve got potentially 10 stacks across half or more of the zerg. Ideally, of course.

So..the best bang for the buck is run it with other mesmers, so what if you wanna roam?

So i guess 3 stacks will be ideal? right?

True, true. Get a small party of Inept Mesmer together, and you can probably stack up and confuse the whole zerg.

The ideal situation I imagine is stacking up right in front of your gate and evade everything for 4~5 seconds via methods. Ah, just realized Chronomancer’s Well of Precognition could also help since it’s final tick is 2s of Blur. Huh. Off topic.

So yes, the more the merrier for this, though what I’m thinking of is hitting zergs spamming at PvE targets like gates or lords, when they’re most braindead. To get the most “bang for you buck” is to maximize your stacks and targets like this, I’m thinking~

I’m worry that it’ll suffer the same fate as blinding befuddlement, but to be honest one confusion per 10s rarely does anything to a player, not to mention current zergs who know how to blast heal.

I think Mistrust will have much better damage potential there, having to achieve high stacks of confusion against careless zerg.

At the moment I’m more interested in AoE Diversion, Cripple on F2 and reflect on F4, so I’m not sure whether I will prefer MoF or Ineptitude.

Definitely going to be running Sword/x a lot more now with traits like evasive mirror and ineptitude.