Guild Wars 2

If so, what to?
If not, why not?

No, I still love my mesmer. Besides, if these changes really hurt the profession, I’m sure that Anet will address them. The best way is to keep playing them and show the problems, if any, so that Anet has enough info. to correct them.

Anyone know if ESO has an SPvP type gameplay that the devs will balance around screwing the rest of the game?

If not i am rerolling to a Dark Elf spellsword type character.

I have alts in different classes (so no re-roll just select a different toon), I may play around with the thief / guardian / or ranger.

Although the ranger got hit pretty hard too.

Yes. I’d like to try an engi , but i dont how they work in pve. so probably is gonna be a necro or guardian

In the immortal words of Seven Mirror, “I don’t care if they nerf me to the ground, dude. I don’t care if I’m just a clone — I’ll be one kitten clone, hanging around in your face, doing 3 damage, all day”.

DaShi.1368:

if these changes really hurt the profession, I’m sure that Anet will address them. The best way is to keep playing them and show the problems, if any, so that Anet has enough info. to correct them.

You have far far far more faith in Anet than I have…

ok maybe kylia and pyro will find a way to work around all these changes and maybe find gold somewhwere….and it shall be hidden or it gets nerfed..maybe open a new forum to discuss secret builds that could be viable

selan.8354:

ok maybe kylia and pyro will find a way to work around all these changes and maybe find gold somewhwere….and it shall be hidden or it gets nerfed..maybe open a new forum to discuss secret builds that could be viable

20/20/0/0/30
0/20/20/0/30

Pick one.

Not rerolling. I love mesmer gameplay too much compared to other classed to even think of doing that. I’ll just have to deal with the nerfs and hope that someday anet makes condition builds viable again.

I’ll be on my guardian until they fix the class again.

Yeah, I’m re-rolling Elder Scrolls Online.

I always love watching the forums explode after patch notes are released.

Disclaimer: I also had a moment of weakness on a few of my posts, so I’m guilty too.

That said I love this class so I’ll make it work, but I’m incredibly disappointed in Anet right now. First time I’ve ever been legitimately disappointed in them.

No – I still enjoy my mesmer a lot. In spite of today’s nerfs, I’ll still feel effective, I’m sure, and it’ll be remaining my main for the forseeable future.

Otherwise, I agree with DaShi – if something is genuinely OP/UP, the best way of influencing this is to play it, get some data, and then draft a good, well-written and clear justification as to why it needs a change….I’m sure the devs mentally filter out “unconstructive” posts quite quickly, or at least take them less seriously.

Besides, the cycle of buffs and nerfs is kinda the norm for MMOs these days….if one’s going to play MMOs, one needs to get used to that…but I can see that’s not always easy.

No, not at all.

I do believe they went overboard with some of these changes, however this is still the most fun class in the game, visually and thematically.

shimmerless.4560:

In the immortal words of Seven Mirror, “I don’t care if they nerf me to the ground, dude. I don’t care if I’m just a clone — I’ll be one kitten clone, hanging around in your face, doing 3 damage, all day”.

Sums it up.

Sigh. Why must people rely on others to find them a build? There’s many of us who actually try out builds for ourselves and actually know what the class is capable of. I can already see at least two other builds that may be viable other than shatter but haven’t had the chance to test them.

Ayrilana.1396:

Sigh. Why must people rely on others to find them a build? There’s many of us who actually try out builds for ourselves and actually know what the class is capable of. I can already see at least two other builds that may be viable other than shatter but haven’t had the chance to test them.

Agreed.
Playing without IC will be more challenging, but it doesn’t mean you’re suddenly going to fail in every encounter.

I’ll adapt and test stuff to find my own compromise.
At least PU buff means I can keep 30 in chaos, and compounding celerity should be interesting to play around with.

Ayrilana.1396:

Sigh. Why must people rely on others to find them a build? There’s many of us who actually try out builds for ourselves and actually know what the class is capable of. I can already see at least two other builds that may be viable other than shatter but haven’t had the chance to test them.

It’s not that we can’t figure this stuff out, it’s that we are disheartened at the moment and don’t want to.

Nope. If I reroll the kittens win. I’ll just make another build to annoy them with.

I’m going to be running this in pvp (phantasm build), it’s pretty similar to the build I used to run, but with 5 taken from inspiration and put into illusions for Celerity. Meaning no 20% increased phantasm hp but the default hp was buffed anyway.

No idea what I’m going to run in dungeons/fractals though.

http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=-NFcg-JGWPF01y6cVF71;9;4JJ-4O29-13;529-UNk6-wl6DsV2Ds-D5Bw

Tim Gunn told me to make it work, so I will.

duno witch pick

Yesterday I finally got my second mesmer to level 80. I wanted two different builds to play around with.

The good news is that now i can run both builds
20/20/0/0/30 and
0/20/20/0/30.

Certainly these changes are a precursor to the apocalypse. I encourage everyone to quit and reroll doomsday-prepper profession.

Can I has your bottled water?

LOL @ Toobz! Well played.

Waiting until my games is patches…i got an 80 thief and they are op anyway, so i might play with him for a while. Also leveling an engineer and warrior atm which both got a good amount of buffing (like…every class other than mesmer).

But i’m far too much into teleporting over the place, dancing around my opponent to give up my little mesmer yet. If the next patch will nerf mesmer in a similar manner, i will most likely quit the game.

never

ill always be a mesmer and ill just learn to live with whatever nerf they throw at me.
but now theyve gone too far…

rihgt nowim justhoping they refert these nerfs…..

the worst was that they said “were adding more build diversity”, while in reality they removed it.

its like real life all over again… people say they want to help me.. all they do is bash me into the ground

Xavi.6591:

Yeah, I’m re-rolling Elder Scrolls Online.

I am with you – after 8 months of playing Mesmer ANet has thankfully given me a reason to switch off now.
Its unbelievable that one trait move (that of Illusionist’s Celerity) can so thoroughly kill a class.
I took my ‘old’ build to PvP after the patch.
I stood around utterly shocked – felt like I was playing in slow motion up to my arm pits in mud – playing mesmer was for me always a case of thinking and acting fast. Never letting your opponent know where you are, hitting them when they’re not expecting it. I am not into conditions or shattering – my illusions are my allies, my smoke screen, my weapons.
All my strategy and general play style are now rubbish – something perfected over the last couple of months.
Hey ANet if this is your idea of making GW fun and balancing a class then I am out. I have no interest in re-rolling another class – too much time and effort vested in my mesmer.

AfterDark.1920:

I am with you – after 8 months of playing Mesmer ANet has thankfully given me a reason to switch off now.

$20 says the people “quitting” because of this don’t actually leave.

osif.8673:

AfterDark.1920:

I am with you – after 8 months of playing Mesmer ANet has thankfully given me a reason to switch off now.

$20 says the people “quitting” because of this don’t actually leave.

Probably not, people are really upset. Some people are probably going to log in tonight grumbling. Some people are probably going to take a break to calm down and let the meta play out a little bit. Some people who take a break will never come back. It’s just the way these things go.

However, despite the obvious next post, the game will not be better off to see them go. They are not necessarily fair weather mesmers. In fact, I bet some of them were the most committed players Anet had.

Nah i won’t be re-rolling and i also won’t be putting another £ into this game, I’ll just wait for some other game to arrive then i’m gone.

Never known of Devs to listen wholeheartedly to the biggest bunch of crybabies i have ever seen in a gaming community.

elder scroll on line is coming in 2014… it’s a long wait and by that time the mesmer could probably use 1 portal every 2 days, will teleport 1 step further and no longer spawn illusion, it will be auto bleeding for each attack, so people in pvp can finally enjoy life.
but they will have torment on a counter attack 5 mighty stacks of torment that last… no wait people in pvp are not gonna like it.

Am I rerolling? No, I am already traited for ‘Zerker/Shatter which happened during the obliteration of Confusion. But I’m looking at getting my Necro out of the starter event.

Am I looking at other builds? LOL, what other builds?

People will relax by the weekend once they’ve seen the full impact of all of the changes rather than focusing on just a few. There will likely be several builds out by then as well from those that regularly post them which 90% of the Mesmer population follow/use.

Well, theres not really any limitations to playing more than 1 character, but considering the lackluster looks of light armor and the shatter mechanic being horribly dull to play with, I might go elementalist again.

Lue.6538:

Well, theres not really any limitations to playing more than 1 character, but considering the lackluster looks of light armor and the shatter mechanic being horribly dull to play with, I might go elementalist again.

Dude you’ve got to be kidding..Ele was nerfed as well

Why would I re-roll? Because they nerfed the most OP 1v1-build by changing 1 trait? No thanks - I’ll stick to innovating and owning unsuspecting fools.

Man, I love all these forum-warriors, who can only play meta-builds, and who cries every time something OP gets fixed.

Let’s put it this way: despite being my main and character i liked/played the most, i enjoy mes manly in pve… where i found my break point, and got bored to hell.
Spvp is crap, so don’t care.
Turning as wvwer, i’m liking much more the ele/nec/war feeling than the mes one…

In other words, i probably wouldn’t have used mes for a while anyway, outside some dg with friends in few occurencies, so this patch while being bad and all isn’t really THE issue.

On the other hand, i’m going to sell back my Zap. I was close to finish the Bolt (few charged and t6 and runestones to go) and slap it on Mes, but right now i’m going back and swap it out for some other legg.
Sword MH on mes was by far my favourite weapon of all GW2.
And all the 3 skills got nerfed one way or other, so, bleh.

From what I can tell, most of the changes were buffs to mesmers… not sure why people are talking about rerolling.

Kusa.6438:

From what I can tell, most of the changes were buffs to mesmers… not sure why people are talking about rerolling.

erm no nope and the buffs are tiny and most of them pretty random. and most of those buffs where because they nerft the same skill/trait…

Titanimite.2534:

Lue.6538:

Well, theres not really any limitations to playing more than 1 character, but considering the lackluster looks of light armor and the shatter mechanic being horribly dull to play with, I might go elementalist again.

Dude you’ve got to be kidding..Ele was nerfed as well

No I’m not kidding on anything I said:
You can play several characters, just not simultaneously.
I do find the light armors to be really plain and boring.
I do not enjoy shattering clones.

Never did I however comment on wether or not Elementalist were nerfed or not in this patch, nor would I care if it was.. Simply because unlike you, I’d rather play a class because its fun rather than because its the strongest.

Kusa.6438:

From what I can tell, most of the changes were buffs to mesmers… not sure why people are talking about rerolling.

You need to re-read.

XRay.1920:

I’ll be on my guardian until they fix the class again.

You mean until they make it overpower again.

No. 3 abilities/traits a class does not make.

Nope. I have no other lvl 80 job and even if I did all my ascended gear is on my Mesmer. Even if Arale doesn’t agree the changes they made particularly, the iC movement and the Vengful Retaliation nerf have broken the three builds I ran for PvE,PvP and WvW. They seriously took everything from me. I am just going to quit probably.

I am shatter and my mes is more of an alt so nope.

I did re-read. Please tell me what you think “broke” shatter builds.

they didn’t break shatter build they make it the only way to go or yeah let’s try to interrupt everything… they forgot though they created defiant also… but who cares, pvper aren’t going to whine anymore for at least one week (time to figure out how to get best of what we have now)

I’m staying a Mesmer. It feels a little clunky getting used to the longer CDs, but overall I’m liking my new phantasm staff/GS build and have no problems with similar 1v1s, 1vXs that I had before the patch. Plus phantasms are now much more viable in a group than they used to be. Not saying it’s better than shatter, but phantasm speccs never were when talking about a group setting.

I used to roam as a mesmer a lot in WvW. But the day I rolled my thief, well, that’s the day I rerolled. :P
Even if my thief isn’t as interesting in the fight itself, it’s simply so much better in most 1vX situations, and I can push it alot harder because I know I can reset quite well. It also makes moving around the field a lot less frustrating.

they didn’t break shatter build they make it the only way to go or yeah let’s try to interrupt everything… they forgot though they created defiant also…

They also forgot this rookie friendly feature: if you interrupt a skill, it recharges back in 5 seconds. Was quite differend story in gw1… Dshot and the skill took an EXTRA 20 seconds to recharge.
But what can you except. There are exactly 3 devs working on gw2 that were also working for gw1.