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Posted by: Luria.2317

Luria.2317

Hey There,

im looking for help with Sigiles in my weapon sets.

(First, sorry for my bad english, but i await no good help in german forums)

I play my Mesmer full melee with sword/focus | sword/pistol with a 10/30/0/20/10 skillung. I uses Scolar and full berserker Equipment.
Only for PvE in dungeons and fractals.

But im unhappy with my Sigils on my weapons.

Sword : 5% more Damage (More damage for my most use attacks)
Focus : 10 more Power each time you kill a foe (with focus i kill the most of the trash mobs)
Pistol : 30% to geht might on crtitcal hit (i use the pistol more than the focus in boss fights, so i get more damage over the fight)

The combination feels not perfect and I dont want to use the Sigil of Night, or swapping my weapons with full bloodlust stacks, but i know it would make a little more damage.

So maybe someone can help me.

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Posted by: azizul.8469

azizul.8469

i use sigil of battle for off-hands (pistol,sword,focus)

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Posted by: AndrewSX.3794

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Bloodlust on shared sword, battle the offhands (both) would prolly be the best setup.

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Posted by: Azzer.8137

Azzer.8137

Maybe Sigil of Night?, 5 of 8 dungeons is night time and there is also a fair few night time fractals.

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Posted by: Xyonon.3987

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Since +5% dmg doesn’t affect phantasms:

stacking power / presicion + battle offhands.

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Posted by: smilko.4056

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One question. Since stuff that phantasm kills don’t count for weapon kills (say phantasmal warden kills a mob, but kill is not counted as a focus kill), does it stack bloodlust if I put it on focus?

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Posted by: Xyonon.3987

Xyonon.3987

Its a bad idea but yea it works. It works like “an enemy you attacked dies while whielding weapon with bloodlust”

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Posted by: Luria.2317

Luria.2317

Bloodlust on shared sword, battle the offhands (both) would prolly be the best setup.

Its possible, but it isnt waste damage? I get 90% from the stacks with focus, so theoretically i could use it to make more damage with sword/pistil set, with a free sigil.

Maybe Sigil of Night?, 5 of 8 dungeons is night time and there is also a fair few night time fractals.

Right, but this means to craft another ascendet weapon and expensiv skin :/.

One question. Since stuff that phantasm kills don’t count for weapon kills (say phantasmal warden kills a mob, but kill is not counted as a focus kill), does it stack bloodlust if I put it on focus?

The focus doesnt kill the foes only. I hit all mobs with my sword with aoe, so i get the stacks surely. With bloodlust you must not kill the foes, you must only hit them befor their die.

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Posted by: Xyonon.3987

Xyonon.3987

As I said you just have to wield the weapon with the sigill. You could have damaged it with the other set and just switch in the end and still gain the stack.

As for “another free sigil” … What do yo uwanna take? All the +5% damage / crit won’t affect the phantasms wich are the only damage sources of offhands.

It’s easier to make use of swap and get might with offhands and use bloodlust as main. There aren’t any other useful sigils anyway except maybe hydro and geo for aoe. But in general single target / might is better.

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Posted by: Luria.2317

Luria.2317

Since +5% dmg doesn’t affect phantasms:

stacking power / presicion + battle offhands.

This should be the best decision, thank you.

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Posted by: Xyonon.3987

Xyonon.3987

But to be honest – I relly run geomancy on staff. I innitiate with sword 3, cast warden, 3 again (no I’m in), 2, SWITCH, chaosstorm, backoff with 2 after a few seconds before cs ends to gain chaosarmor.
This is just for some survivablity AoE. I use it at places like ascalon fractale against all these mass’o’mobs.

Geomancy sigill says “causes bleeding on weapon swap” … great. Now I expect 1 stack for 5 sec on … something around me? The trueth is there are 3 stacks over 7 seconds (1000 damage with 0 condmg/malice) AND it deals an additional crittable 1000 damage to 5 targets. Like 10’000 damage on weapon swap there. I like it to be honest

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Posted by: AndrewSX.3794

AndrewSX.3794

Bloodlust on shared sword, battle the offhands (both) would prolly be the best setup.

Its possible, but it isnt waste damage? I get 90% from the stacks with focus, so theoretically i could use it to make more damage with sword/pistil set, with a free sigil.

Depends where you find comfortable to drop Bloodlust.

If you place it on Sword, which i shared, you’ll always have it. When you ding the 25 stacks, you can change sword (you should have 2 anyway for a S/S setup when needed) with a different DPS sigil – like Force or Night.

This means that off-hands are both free to pick DPS sigils compatible. Battle is a good option because having it on both OH will net you 6 might stacks on average (iirc) which isn’t bad – if you’re not running with somebody staking 25 stacks your you ofc.

Battle is just a suggestion ofc. You can place Force on both, Force/Night, or whatever you prefer.
The issue is that +% dmg sigils won’t affect phantasms, which are you main source of dmg.
Might stacks are straight +Power modifiers, which will instead be shared with your Phantasms, increasing their dmg.

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Posted by: Me Games Ma.8426

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I prefer to have:

  • Mainhand:
    I) Sword with Bloodlust
    II) Sword with Energy
    III) Sword with Battle
  • Offhand:
    I) Focus with Force
    II) Focus with Battle
    III) Pistol with Force
    IV) Pistol with Battle

Combinations I use:
I/II+I/IV
II/I+II/III
III/I+III/III

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Posted by: Xyonon.3987

Xyonon.3987

what were force/energy again?

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Posted by: Me Games Ma.8426

Me Games Ma.8426

Force= +5% Dmg
Energy= +50% Endurance when switching to this weaponset

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Posted by: Xyonon.3987

Xyonon.3987

Well force is kinda wasted as mesmer but energy seems to be very strong against taff enemy bosses. Thx bro.

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Posted by: spoj.9672

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Force/night/undead are all good for reflect damage and increasing your non phantasm dps slightly. If you run arah alot then its worth having force/undead on your weapons. I personally run force on my mainhand, perception on focus and accuracy on offhand sword/pistol. But im pretty lazy with gearing my mesmer because I dont use her as much.

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Posted by: Xyonon.3987

Xyonon.3987

If you use force/night/undead, do you miss the battle runes or bloodlust?

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Posted by: spoj.9672

spoj.9672

I dont use battle and perception is better than bloodlust because of reflects. Battle is fine but in a good group 6 stacks of might can be provided elsewhere.

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Posted by: Xyonon.3987

Xyonon.3987

but but … +4~% more damage for you and your illusions :o i mean you will never have permanently 25 stacks might, will you?

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Posted by: spoj.9672

spoj.9672

Well I mostly use my mesmer for arah so im more concerned with feedback damage. Im probably not the best person to ask about sigils.