Best ways to puzzle enemy?

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Posted by: Silentshoes.1805

Silentshoes.1805

My current “project” is to play a Mesmer that is the absolutely most difficult to “track” and find among the clones.

I’d like this thread to be about sharing things that work to do that.

One big thing I now realize is that the good players who are effortless at finding you do it automatically in their brain, just from lots of experience. They don’t usually actively click and look for boons or signets (that’s too slow).

They just see it as their experienced brain perceives you dodge rolling, or running in a circle, especially when you do it at a distance.

So my theory is that you really have to avoid doing that as much as possible, and use PU invisibility to drop target regularly. That buys you a short window before their brain “picks you up again”.

You have these invisibilities:

Decoy 4 secs out of 24 (traited)
Prestige 4 secs out of 36 (traited)
Mass In 6 secs out of 90
Veil 3 secs out of 90

Blink every 24 (traited) It does not drop target, but it does confuse if you drop BEHIND them or out of peripheral vision.

As I see it, you are going to have periods of about 10 seconds at a time where you are going to have to evade by “blending in” before they reacquire you.

A dodge roll is an instant giveaway. So I am thinking I have to do all my dodge/clone production while in stealth, right?

I saw the post about mimicking clones by moving in short, straight lines. No curving angles.

I know some will say they will always catch you if they are good, so don’t rely on this. But I really want to try to explore this.

I welcome ideas from experiences “decoying mesmers”! Let’s share ideas.

The Alien (condi necro),That Wreckin Crew (Mesmer)
Silentshoes (Thief), Wind of the Woods (condi ranger)

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Posted by: Pyroatheist.9031

Pyroatheist.9031

Well, there really is no way to mimic a clone perfectly. You’ll always be isolated as the real mesmer rapidly against a competent opponent.

Even things like stealth that seem like they could be helpful, actually aren’t. When I see you stealth, I know instantly that when you unstealth, you’re the real one. Using any skills causes me to recognize the real mesmer. Any normal movement will be the real mesmer.

Ultimately, the only way to truly mimic a clone is to completely cripple yourself.

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Posted by: Silentshoes.1805

Silentshoes.1805

So it’s hopeless? <sigh>. What’s the point of PU mesmer stealth then?

The Alien (condi necro),That Wreckin Crew (Mesmer)
Silentshoes (Thief), Wind of the Woods (condi ranger)

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Posted by: Kusa.6438

Kusa.6438

Best way to puzzle an enemy.
1. don’t use anything that puts a buff icon on you.
2. Play PU
3. Profit.

If you’re playing PU build, you shouldn’t have to worry about getting hit too much. It’s extremely tanking and you confuse the hell out of them due to constant stealth while clones are up.

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Posted by: Pyroatheist.9031

Pyroatheist.9031

So it’s hopeless? <sigh>. What’s the point of PU mesmer stealth then?

PU provides you with strong defensive boons while in stealth, and increases the duration of your stealths. Is that not enough of a point for you?

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Posted by: Silentshoes.1805

Silentshoes.1805

Pyro, no need to get edgy. I just meant that I thought the stealth of PU was mainly about deception, that’s all.

The Alien (condi necro),That Wreckin Crew (Mesmer)
Silentshoes (Thief), Wind of the Woods (condi ranger)

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Posted by: Kusa.6438

Kusa.6438

So it’s hopeless? <sigh>. What’s the point of PU mesmer stealth then?

If you’re asking this, then you’re playing PU wrong. Or you’re speced wrong.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fgAQNAW7flwzipXUzmGb9IipHBHyBckUUavWJFz2FC-ToAAzEFpKyVkpIZR2iGXsAZfB

These are the traits/utilities you should be using.
Plus Sigil of Ice is amazing. Right now, chill is one of the most overpower condi’s in pvp.

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Posted by: Silentshoes.1805

Silentshoes.1805

By the way, what trait reduces the Decoy cooldown? I can’t seem to find it.

The Alien (condi necro),That Wreckin Crew (Mesmer)
Silentshoes (Thief), Wind of the Woods (condi ranger)

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Posted by: Pyroatheist.9031

Pyroatheist.9031

By the way, what trait reduces the Decoy cooldown? I can’t seem to find it.

Illusionist’s celerity.

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Posted by: Curunen.8729

Curunen.8729

It’s not really effective though playing like that, beyond having a laugh – not going to be able to deal out the pain without giving yourself away somehow.

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Posted by: Silentshoes.1805

Silentshoes.1805

By the way, what trait reduces the Decoy cooldown? I can’t seem to find it.

Illusionist’s celerity.

Thanks.

The Alien (condi necro),That Wreckin Crew (Mesmer)
Silentshoes (Thief), Wind of the Woods (condi ranger)

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Posted by: Ross Biddle.2367

Ross Biddle.2367

I once encountered a staff mesmer who turned off their auto attack, and would manually fire his aa at slow intervals while standing stationary. He did this with the support of friends around, and incidentally I saw through it straight away…

Misdirection is probably your strongest bet. Utilize obstructions, break LoS, stay mobile. Stealth, blink, and portal.

An example, core concepts at play in here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GZ6UgA_MUo

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