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Posted by: Curunen.8729

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Is really annoying.

So easy to dodge too soon and cancel the spawn, kittening up swap. I don’t like having to sit and wait that fraction of a second longer when anything can come and hit me to make sure the clone spawns.

Edit: Just for clarity – I like iLeap functionality as it is – that is to say the ranged clone summon followed by teleport swap. Just needs to be tuned a bit so the clone can’t accidently be cancelled by dodging too soon on casting it.

I like being able to chase people with ileap who try to teleport away up ledges using things like phase retreat or thief shortbow 5. If it was made a “normal” leap, this fun would be ruined.

Please don’t change it, just remove this summon delay.

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Posted by: Embolism.8106

Embolism.8106

After three years of iLeap being unreliable, I think it’s time to scrap the idea and just give Mesmers a normal Immobilising Leap that conjures a Clone on landing. There’s absolutely no reason not to Swap immediately given that with MH Sword you’d be doing kitten-all at range.

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Posted by: Dastion.3106

Dastion.3106

At one point in beta we had exactly what Embolism said. The Mesmer performed a Leap and left a clone behind as he did. the clone then followed after. One of my favorite tricks was to leap at the enemy then roll to their other side. Attack them, and then use swap to dodge their attempted counter stroke by swapping to the clone that was bow behind them.

However, I don’t mind this iteration of the skill. The range just needs to be longer since the clone summoning effect can be dodged. If the range wasn’t so short then their original purpose for adding in the clone delay wouldn’t be necessary.

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Posted by: Fay.2357

Fay.2357

There’s absolutely no reason not to Swap immediately given that with MH Sword you’d be doing kitten-all at range.

There used to be strategy and thought behind when you would swap, back when you could swap even once the clone got killed. Strategy and thought apparently isn’t conducive to game balance, so it got nerfed.

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Posted by: Vieux P.1238

Vieux P.1238

After three years of iLeap being unreliable, I think it’s time to scrap the idea and just give Mesmers a normal Immobilising Leap that conjures a Clone on landing. There’s absolutely no reason not to Swap immediately given that with MH Sword you’d be doing kitten-all at range.

I agree.. just go with a teleport + immob & some damage. The idea was cool but unfortunatly, after 3 years of trying, lets just keep it simple.

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Posted by: Curunen.8729

Curunen.8729

Actually I like the mechanics of ileap and swap as they are – I like chasing enemies up and down ledges in forest, foefire, temple, clocktower and so on.

It’s even fun to do below mid in skyhammer and khylo – with autotargeting on (i have a weird control scheme that works with it) you can spawn the ileap clone while you’re below the point, and then swap straight up surprising anyone who’s running around point.

I would like it to stay with a ranged clone summon, because it allows for a lot of fun play and mindgames with ledges. I’d just like to see the clone spawn faster, even if there is a 0.5s icd then for swap, so I can at least perform another action immediately on casting rather than running the risk of accidently cancelling the clone spawn and ruining the whole skill.

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Posted by: Xyonon.3987

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The swap is a stunbreak and can be used to undo a obv incoming cc. Therefore I’d rather like to let us swap immediately after the spawn of the clone, instead of having to wait for like a whole sec.

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Posted by: Curunen.8729

Curunen.8729

The swap is a stunbreak and can be used to undo a obv incoming cc. Therefore I’d rather like to let us swap immediately after the spawn of the clone, instead of having to wait for like a whole sec.

It’s no use if you can’t swap at all because the clone took too long to summon in the first place, or didn’t spawn because you dodged or something too soon when casting ileap/

Of course I’d rather leave swap alone, so ignore my suggestion on that – I just would like to see this clone summon delay removed so it spawns more quickly like it used to before the june patch.

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Posted by: Quadox.7834

Quadox.7834

After three years of iLeap being unreliable, I think it’s time to scrap the idea and just give Mesmers a normal Immobilising Leap that conjures a Clone on landing. There’s absolutely no reason not to Swap immediately given that with MH Sword you’d be doing kitten-all at range.

The reason to now swap is to bait a dodge. You should NOT always swap instantly. That said, the delay is just annoying and doesn’t help at all.

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Posted by: Mikkel.8427

Mikkel.8427

I really dislike the way iLeap works now… and I think they’ve already proven they’re incapable of making it functional AND ‘balanced’. I’d perfer it to be changed to a real leap, similar to our spear.

Skill part 1- Leap forward doing some dmg and immobilize your target.
Skill part 2- Teleport back to the location you leaped from leaving a clone behind.

I think that would have really fun strategic value thats comparable to our current leap. For instance, we could leap down from a ledge→ burst→ teleport back up. We’d have an out-of-combat mobility skill that doesnt require hitting our 180 spin button every 10 seconds, also. Speaking of staff, we’d still have phase retreat and blink for getting up ledges, so (personally) I wouldnt be bothered by the loss of the super unreliable/clunky functionality of the current sword leap.

The only downsides of this change for me-
1) I’d never be able to unequip my sword again.
2) I’d need to start crafting Bolt.