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Posted by: Psylocker.5264

Psylocker.5264

DISCLAIMER This is not meta ( at least I think so ) , I am not a veteran player more of a casual player! But since I really love mesmer and really love condi dmg in general I wanted to share the build that I made with the recent update that Im really enjoying.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vhEQRArf7ansIC9filfCOoBMrhlcjC9HKpdrMAStWreVr1bF-ThABQAxnAA4kAAA-e

I havent done the raid with this build yet, but I did pull my own weight in higher tier fractals with this build, I also managed to pull dps thats very close to my staff tempest!
I do not switch to chaos if I run with full tank/support chrono in my party, I noticed that I actually lose some dps ( needs testing tho ) when I spec out of chrono ( probably due to chronophantasma trait being super useful here ). I just switch 1 of the wells to something more needed for the run.

OH and sorry for my Engrish T_T

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Posted by: Cyninja.2954

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I’m not sure this build works for raids. First off, condi mesmer prebalance patch was in a state of “useful on 2-3 raid bosses due to gimmicks” and that was without using chrono and before condition damage food was nerfed. Skimming over your build, you are not really taking advantage of most of our changed traits.

You are essentially trying to provide utility and damage but neither of both sufficiently. You won’t be able to replace a support chrono with this build so the wells are moot. You won’t be pulling competative damage numbers since you are lacking a lot of damage utilities and traits (chrono does not provide decent damage traits).

The build might be nice for fractals though since it’s moderate alacrity/boon uptime might be acceptable in a limited player enviroment.

That being said, you are now also competing with power mesmer builds which provide strait up 28-30k raid damage while leaving 1 utility slot and the elite open for other things.

You also forgot to add armor, runes and weapons. I’ll assume full vipers with a go-to condition damage rune/sigils (which usually is geomancy and earth while you are using accuracy). Hard to test this on golem. Haven’t taken the time yet to try it on golem myself though so who knows, maybe I’m missing something.

(edited by Cyninja.2954)

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Posted by: Adonisis.9736

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I also like playing condi on mesmer and still experimenting with Chrono. I just came back to this game so I feel like I need tocplay Chrono to catch up the time i Lost not playing it hehe. I’ll try your build out. You tried providing damage while still providing some utility. What about your armor, Vipers? And how did you check your dps and what was your dps?

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Posted by: Psylocker.5264

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I’m not sure this build works for raids. First off, condi mesmer prebalance patch was in a state of “useful on 2-3 raid bosses due to gimmicks” and that was without using chrono and before condition damage food was nerfed. Skimming over your build, you are not really taking advantage of most of our changed traits.

You are essentially trying to provide utility and damage but neither of both sufficiently. You won’t be able to replace a support chrono with this build so the wells are moot. You won’t be pulling competative damage numbers since you are lacking a lot of damage utilities and traits (chrono does not provide decent damage traits).

The build might be nice for fractals though since it’s moderate alacrity/boon uptime might be acceptable in a limited player enviroment.

That being said, you are now also competing with power mesmer builds which provide strait up 28-30k raid damage while leaving 1 utility slot and the elite open for other things.

You also forgot to add armor, runes and weapons. I’ll assume full vipers with a go-to condition damage rune/sigils (which usually is geomancy and earth while you are using accuracy). Hard to test this on golem. Haven’t taken the time yet to try it on golem myself though so who knows, maybe I’m missing something.

Yea so sorry! I totally forgot to add those, yea Im using viper stats, also build creator isnt updated with new changes so I should post a scrnsht when I get home! Like I said Im more of a casual player that raids sometimes, I also mostly play with a group of friends And so far this build has worked well.

I do agree that berserker chrono (at least the build I was using ) does more dmg, but I prefer this build a lil bit more!

(edited by Psylocker.5264)

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Posted by: Psylocker.5264

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I also like playing condi on mesmer and still experimenting with Chrono. I just came back to this game so I feel like I need tocplay Chrono to catch up the time i Lost not playing it hehe. I’ll try your build out. You tried providing damage while still providing some utility. What about your armor, Vipers? And how did you check your dps and what was your dps?

I am not sure if Im doing it correctly but I use low health golem in raid area to test my dps and it was 4k and my tempest is around 4.3. I dont use any buffs debuffs on me or him just what I can personally bring to the table.
Also judging by the time It takes me to kill and finish some quests dungs etc I noticed that the difference is minimal, when I go with my tempest or with my condi chrono ( I always go with same party so I was able to notice the differences )

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Posted by: Cyninja.2954

Cyninja.2954

I also like playing condi on mesmer and still experimenting with Chrono. I just came back to this game so I feel like I need tocplay Chrono to catch up the time i Lost not playing it hehe. I’ll try your build out. You tried providing damage while still providing some utility. What about your armor, Vipers? And how did you check your dps and what was your dps?

I am not sure if Im doing it correctly but I use low health golem in raid area to test my dps and it was 4k and my tempest is around 4.3. I dont use any buffs debuffs on me or him just what I can personally bring to the table.
Also judging by the time It takes me to kill and finish some quests dungs etc I noticed that the difference is minimal, when I go with my tempest or with my condi chrono ( I always go with same party so I was able to notice the differences )

Use medium golem (4 million hp), give the golem all conditions (mostly for 25 weakness), give yourself all boons and all class specific upgrades, do a full kill rotation on golem. Remember to use approriate food since that does not get provided by the test.

4k is very very low, granted you are missing all boons/buffs but you should still be hitting way more damage.

As comparison top dps currently hit 35k with the formentioned setup (elementalist, guardian, thief), mesmer hits 28-30k.

25k is considered raid minimum but usually dps classes with builds of sub 28-30k are shuned.

(edited by Cyninja.2954)

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Posted by: Psylocker.5264

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I also like playing condi on mesmer and still experimenting with Chrono. I just came back to this game so I feel like I need tocplay Chrono to catch up the time i Lost not playing it hehe. I’ll try your build out. You tried providing damage while still providing some utility. What about your armor, Vipers? And how did you check your dps and what was your dps?

I am not sure if Im doing it correctly but I use low health golem in raid area to test my dps and it was 4k and my tempest is around 4.3. I dont use any buffs debuffs on me or him just what I can personally bring to the table.
Also judging by the time It takes me to kill and finish some quests dungs etc I noticed that the difference is minimal, when I go with my tempest or with my condi chrono ( I always go with same party so I was able to notice the differences )

Use medium golem (4 million hp), give the golem all conditions (mostly for 25 weakness), give yourself all boons and all class specific upgrades, do a full kill rotation on golem.

4k is very very low, granted you are missing all boons/buffs but you should still be hitting way more damage.

As comparison top dps currently hit 35k with the formentioned setup, mesmer hits 28-30k.

Oh tnx Ill test again when I get home, like I said I was probably doing it wrong xD I started like 3 months ago ( even tho account is a year old ) Still dont know all the stuff so ty <3

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Posted by: Cyninja.2954

Cyninja.2954

I also like playing condi on mesmer and still experimenting with Chrono. I just came back to this game so I feel like I need tocplay Chrono to catch up the time i Lost not playing it hehe. I’ll try your build out. You tried providing damage while still providing some utility. What about your armor, Vipers? And how did you check your dps and what was your dps?

I am not sure if Im doing it correctly but I use low health golem in raid area to test my dps and it was 4k and my tempest is around 4.3. I dont use any buffs debuffs on me or him just what I can personally bring to the table.
Also judging by the time It takes me to kill and finish some quests dungs etc I noticed that the difference is minimal, when I go with my tempest or with my condi chrono ( I always go with same party so I was able to notice the differences )

Use medium golem (4 million hp), give the golem all conditions (mostly for 25 weakness), give yourself all boons and all class specific upgrades, do a full kill rotation on golem.

4k is very very low, granted you are missing all boons/buffs but you should still be hitting way more damage.

As comparison top dps currently hit 35k with the formentioned setup, mesmer hits 28-30k.

Oh tnx Ill test again when I get home, like I said I was probably doing it wrong xD I started like 3 months ago ( even tho account is a year old ) Still dont know all the stuff so ty <3

Not an issue, I was just pointing out some problems I was seeing with your build (and as mentioned I haven’t taken the time to put it to a golem test). Obviously you can run whatever you want.

People just enjoy throwing around worlds like “raid viable” way to often based on their subjective experience without doing objective build testing.

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Posted by: Psylocker.5264

Psylocker.5264

I also like playing condi on mesmer and still experimenting with Chrono. I just came back to this game so I feel like I need tocplay Chrono to catch up the time i Lost not playing it hehe. I’ll try your build out. You tried providing damage while still providing some utility. What about your armor, Vipers? And how did you check your dps and what was your dps?

I am not sure if Im doing it correctly but I use low health golem in raid area to test my dps and it was 4k and my tempest is around 4.3. I dont use any buffs debuffs on me or him just what I can personally bring to the table.
Also judging by the time It takes me to kill and finish some quests dungs etc I noticed that the difference is minimal, when I go with my tempest or with my condi chrono ( I always go with same party so I was able to notice the differences )

Use medium golem (4 million hp), give the golem all conditions (mostly for 25 weakness), give yourself all boons and all class specific upgrades, do a full kill rotation on golem.

4k is very very low, granted you are missing all boons/buffs but you should still be hitting way more damage.

As comparison top dps currently hit 35k with the formentioned setup, mesmer hits 28-30k.

Oh tnx Ill test again when I get home, like I said I was probably doing it wrong xD I started like 3 months ago ( even tho account is a year old ) Still dont know all the stuff so ty <3

Not an issue, I was just pointing out some problems I was seeing with your build (and as mentioned I haven’t taken the time to put it to a golem test). Obviously you can run whatever you want.

People just enjoy throwing around worlds like “raid viable” way to often based on their subjective experience without doing objective build testing.

Yea thats Y I never said its raid viable or anything, I enjoy it. The party I run with has benefits from it and so far we are kicking as xD, But since I love it so much I just wanted to share it! I also think (from info gathered) that this will flow well into new mirage spec! If u manage to test the build in next 7-8h shout I wanna know what u came up with! Before I get home to test it again meself

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Posted by: Adonisis.9736

Adonisis.9736

Any updates regarding your tests Psylocker?

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Posted by: Psylocker.5264

Psylocker.5264

Any updates regarding your tests Psylocker?

Nope, didnt have enough time to test it more Im usually busy helping friends. But so far when it comes to open world/fractals Im doing pretty solid. I did switch to pure mesmer a few times but I dont see a difference, this could be because I traited my shatters to give condi’s, and my phantasms as well so that chrono actually helps when it comes to that. Once I sit down and test the * out of this build I will update the 1st post.
Im also starting to play with the idea of mixing in some concentration and shield instead of pistol not sure how it will turn out…