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Posted by: egnoM.2039

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Is it possible?
viable?
Cause I play staff and scepter/shield and think that it has to low dmg…
Is it the build that I’m doing or is just not good in pve?

Does anyone have a build that works on pve could share it to give me a little hand?
I Have always played necromancer condi but love the mesmer. Would love to play it condi but just dont feel it in pve…

Do you guys think that Viper build is not good for him???

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Posted by: tobascodagama.2961

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PvE meaning…?

It’s definitely not meta for raids (you’ll be using boonshare for that) or fractals.

For open world, you can get away with it, though it’ll be slower than power due to condition ramp-up time.

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Posted by: egnoM.2039

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meaning open world and fractals.

boonshare dmg is bad???

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Posted by: OriOri.8724

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Chrono damage is just not that great honestly. Sword was just buffed, but its a power weapon, so if you want to kill things faster go the power route. If you want to do hybrid run SW/SH and Scepter/shield or focus (for pulls and an AoE phantasm that blocks projectiles).

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Posted by: Xyonon.3987

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Condi Chrono has taken a hit since the last patch due to the SoI nerf. Without Inspiration nor Domination you’ll gonna have a hard time sustaining Quickness compared to the much more flexible power variant. As others have mentioned, sword (power) also got majorly buffed.

If you want to play Condi Mesmer, it’s still a top tier dps profession for Matthias and some fotm encounters that force you to ranged combat. However in those cases you are purely dps and no longer a buffer / supporter. Besides those areas, condi Mes / Chrono only has a place as open world hero point soloer. That’s about it.

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Posted by: Xyonon.3987

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mimic allows quickness sustain without domination or inspiration, for a condi team, that’s a near perfect uptime which is good. I even would tend to think that a condi team would prefer a better alacrity uptime with a proper 90%+ quickness only.

Picking mimic is the opposite of good Alacrity uptime. Unless you use 3x iAvenger but then power would be way better, even in a condi team.

chaos setup allows major team boon up. restricting mesmer to only condi is not sustainable to my view versus other classes capabilities.

But Chaos means removing either Duelling or Illusions wich are both required for a condi Chrono to deal decent dps. If one of those are missing, your duellists are screwed. In those cases you can just go power again and outdamage condi.

Yet dps wise, this for sure is to be studied. my boon up condi chrono before update was capable of 30% more dps (but could become situational) than zerk chrono. the difference most likely decreased.

30% more dps? I highly doubt that, or have you been comparing 3 duellists with 3 iAvengers or a duo condi chrono with a solo power one? o.รด

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Posted by: egnoM.2039

egnoM.2039

Do you guys think that viper build is to overkill with it?…
I would be using the part of thepower and the condition on the mesmer…
Isn’t it good???

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Posted by: Xyonon.3987

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You either should focus on the power OR the condition part of the chrono. As condi you need rampager to get your crit chance up for the “bleeding on crit” traits.

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Posted by: Mikkel.8427

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I use full sinister on my condi Mesmer, but i’m thinking about changing to full rampager’s. With the sword buff, I think I can boost my DPS by using both sword and scepter MH.

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Posted by: Xyonon.3987

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Agree with you on the sword part.

Btw, wait with changing your gear – I’ve noticed some buglike anomalies with my build since the patch I cannot explain:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/5945vr/hidden_condi_mes_nerfchange_help_plz_d/

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Posted by: Mikkel.8427

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I tested my DPS last night and got results consistent with pre-patch. I don’t use any additional buffs when I do initial tests on builds, though. Maybe its one of the additional effects you’re granting yourself?

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Posted by: Xyonon.3987

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It was most likely to be the quickness gained by SoI, not only the fury

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Posted by: Fay.2357

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It was most likely to be the quickness gained by SoI, not only the fury

Probably yeah. It would have a small effect on dps since the duelists do have a noticeable channel time.

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Posted by: Xyonon.3987

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It was most likely to be the quickness gained by SoI, not only the fury

Probably yeah. It would have a small effect on dps since the duelists do have a noticeable channel time.

Duellists channel around 1.5-2s I guessed without checking – so that’d be almost 10% damage from Quickness. Oh how I miss sharing Fury and Quickness to them … -2500 dps :/

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