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Posted by: Angelica Dream.7103

Angelica Dream.7103

I am looking into a feasibility of a Torment Mesmer using the synergy of:

Superior Sigil of Torment (30% on Crit to AOE Torment w/ 7 sec cool down)
Superior Rune of Tormenting:
(1): +28 Condition Damage.png Condition Damage
(2): 15% Torment.png Torment Duration
(3): +55 Condition Damage.png Condition Damage
(4): 15% Torment.png Torment Duration
(5): +100 Condition Damage.png Condition Damage
(6): 15% Torment.png Torment Duration and AoE 2 Stacks of Torment.png Torment on Heal (20s cooldown)

So the weapon would fuel a steady set of torment to armor.
Of course it would need decent Precision to kick it off and I guess Rabid Armor, Weapons, and Trinkets?

My thought is the combination of Confusion and Torment will keep the opponent unable to move or attack ( all on paper of course)

Rough Skill Set:
http://www.gw2db.com/skills/calc/mesmer#6|0|4150|4090|12684|4648|4514|0|0|0|0|20|1817|1815|0|0|0|0|0|20|2319|2315|0|15|2310|0|0|5|0|3|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|21023|48791|48791|48791|48791|48791|

I am NOT a WvW nor a PVE player, but would like to get into it. I appreciate any constructive criticism and especially any advice to improve the idea.

Most of all I would like to know if this idea could work at all before I spend the resources to buy it. Especially since Mesmer’s are not know for condition builds.

Thanks for any input

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Posted by: Helios.3598

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for WvW I could only see this working well for necro (preferably a DS necro)

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Posted by: Ross Biddle.2367

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Here’s a guy running torment runes in a heavy condi build.

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Posted by: Angelica Dream.7103

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Here’s a guy running torment runes in a heavy condi build.

I am not sure if my torment weapon/armor idea is good or if he is just a great player. To bad he did not post his build.

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Posted by: Ross Biddle.2367

Ross Biddle.2367

Here’s a guy running torment runes in a heavy condi build.

I am not sure if my torment weapon/armor idea is good or if he is just a great player. To bad he did not post his build.

Here’s his thread

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/community/links/Roaming-mes-vid

Send him a PM with your build and ask him what he thinks.

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Posted by: skcamow.3527

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Here’s a guy running torment runes in a heavy condi build.

I am not sure if my torment weapon/armor idea is good or if he is just a great player. To bad he did not post his build.

Here’s his thread

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/community/links/Roaming-mes-vid

Send him a PM with your build and ask him what he thinks.

This is likely the build:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/mesmer/Build-The-Blackwater-Mesmer-Condition-WvW/page/7#post3166167

Kortham Raysplitter (Yak’s Bend)

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Posted by: Pyroatheist.9031

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Here’s a guy running torment runes in a heavy condi build.

I am not sure if my torment weapon/armor idea is good or if he is just a great player. To bad he did not post his build.

Here’s his thread

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/community/links/Roaming-mes-vid

Send him a PM with your build and ask him what he thinks.

This is likely the build:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/mesmer/Build-The-Blackwater-Mesmer-Condition-WvW/page/7#post3166167

Not quite. He’s using sword/pistol scepter/torch, but he does have the same 20/20/30 and the same domination and dueling traits, along with PU and debilitating dissipation.

He’s got torment runes obviously as well.

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Posted by: skcamow.3527

skcamow.3527

Here’s a guy running torment runes in a heavy condi build.

I am not sure if my torment weapon/armor idea is good or if he is just a great player. To bad he did not post his build.

Here’s his thread

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/community/links/Roaming-mes-vid

Send him a PM with your build and ask him what he thinks.

This is likely the build:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/mesmer/Build-The-Blackwater-Mesmer-Condition-WvW/page/7#post3166167

Not quite. He’s using sword/pistol scepter/torch, but he does have the same 20/20/30 and the same domination and dueling traits, along with PU and debilitating dissipation.

He’s got torment runes obviously as well.

Ah, I didn’t mean he was rolling blackwater. He posted his torment focused build in the blackwater thread. I linked directly to his post. Unless I’m missing something?

Kortham Raysplitter (Yak’s Bend)

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Posted by: Pyroatheist.9031

Pyroatheist.9031

Here’s a guy running torment runes in a heavy condi build.

I am not sure if my torment weapon/armor idea is good or if he is just a great player. To bad he did not post his build.

Here’s his thread

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/community/links/Roaming-mes-vid

Send him a PM with your build and ask him what he thinks.

This is likely the build:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/mesmer/Build-The-Blackwater-Mesmer-Condition-WvW/page/7#post3166167

Not quite. He’s using sword/pistol scepter/torch, but he does have the same 20/20/30 and the same domination and dueling traits, along with PU and debilitating dissipation.

He’s got torment runes obviously as well.

Ah, I didn’t mean he was rolling blackwater. He posted his torment focused build in the blackwater thread. I linked directly to his post. Unless I’m missing something?

Ah, good call.

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Posted by: Angelica Dream.7103

Angelica Dream.7103

Thanks for all the input guys!

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Posted by: selan.8354

selan.8354

i use it with glamour hybrid build and tormenting sigils in wvw and its pretty effective like that. i see torment popping everywhere now.works great with triforce too

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Posted by: messiah.1908

messiah.1908

i think for mesmer perplexity rune is far better than torment rune as torment block is passive skill so only the sigil is good which give 1-2 stacks

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Posted by: Cares Less.9631

Cares Less.9631

I made the switch to Torment Sigil for my Glamour build, but Rune wise Perplexity offers more in zerg play:

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Posted by: Angelica Dream.7103

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Sup Torment vs Perplexity Rune my thoughts ( not tested)

To shut down confusion you do not attack. To palatially shutdown torment you do not move (even so they take damage)
Movement is vital in WvW and will be especially deadly on fleeing or charging foes where confusion does no damage.

Thanks for the great discussion

ps can I see you Glamor build?

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Posted by: Angelica Dream.7103

Angelica Dream.7103

Running the Scepter/Touch Sword/Pistol how do you keep up the pace in WVW with out the focus for speed?

thank you

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Posted by: Zach.3264

Zach.3264

Figured I’d add this.
He actually posted on the video 2 days ago with his build.

http://en.gw2skills.net/editor/?fgEQRArf8alwzKoHTzoGb9IipHBnvBckUUavWJF42FC-jkCBINDimWAikGgEJ05QFRjtuuIasqbYqURWHTI1HIySBAzaA-w

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Posted by: SnubFighter.7613

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I’ve been working at setting up the following build that’s kind of a hybrid. Not even sure if it’s viable yet.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fgIQNArcWlwziqHTzqGb9ICqHg319dkUAboWJF42FC-jUCBIMCiUEgkFQk3A5PFRjtuuIasaGYaTER1OEFRrGA-w

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Posted by: insaneseagull.7063

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Here’s a guy running torment runes in a heavy condi build.

I am not sure if my torment weapon/armor idea is good or if he is just a great player. To bad he did not post his build.

I’ve been running that build for 5 days now (but with sigil of torment on sword and scepter as you suggested) and I’ve been winning 90% of the 1v1 fights Even that latest warr build condition/heal/immo? with longbow and 1h sword? . There is just one class I’ve had trouble with,and that’s the mesmer class lol. Full rabid gear as you say with scepter/torch Sword/pistol and torment runes. Same build as the one I quoted. I’ve even won some 1v2 and 1v3 fights but they must¨ve been bad players though since I’m not considering myself as a good player But definitely viable for roaming

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Posted by: Xavi.6591

Xavi.6591

I have been wanting to try Sigil of Torment (instead of Sigil of Bursting) on my torch for my Blackwater PU build.

However I can’t give up Traveler runes. Ever.

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Posted by: insaneseagull.7063

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I have been wanting to try Sigil of Torment (instead of Sigil of Bursting) on my torch for my Blackwater PU build.

However I can’t give up Traveler runes. Ever.

You could just have a focus in your inv. as I do Though it’s not as fast as T runes overall :P

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Posted by: Xavi.6591

Xavi.6591

I have been wanting to try Sigil of Torment (instead of Sigil of Bursting) on my torch for my Blackwater PU build.

However I can’t give up Traveler runes. Ever.

You could just have a focus in your inv. as I do Though it’s not as fast as T runes overall :P

I did that for a long time. I am over that now.

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