Coni removal as a shatter mesmer

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Posted by: PhDusk.2590

PhDusk.2590

Hai everyone!

With the ready up today we found that lyssa has been nerfed to removing up to 5 condis on a 45 sec cool down.

In tpvp I regularly have more than 5 condis on me if I get into a bad spot. So with that in mind, what do yall think will be the best way to remove condis while still running shatter? I am a little worried seeing as perplexity is being added, along with alot of other skills being tacked on with condis.

Any Thoughts?

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Posted by: shimmerless.4560

shimmerless.4560

Don’t get hit!

Otherwise MoR is your last safe bet.

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Posted by: sendmark.4731

sendmark.4731

5 condis is still a lot, will see how it goes. IMO it’s worth the nerf just to tone down thieves/warriors, that’s a decent buff for mesmer in itself.

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Posted by: silentnight warrior.2714

silentnight warrior.2714

The thing is lyssa will not remove the conditions but it will turn them into boons (and some boons are very good (protection, regen).
If you change your build to a 20/20/0/30/0 you will have good sustain against conditions even with shatters.

-Mender’s Purity (IV)
-Shattered Conditions (XI)

You will lose some damage on shatter but you will have more sustain, will give more condition removal and sustain to your team and you will do more damage with phantasms.

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Posted by: Renny.6571

Renny.6571

Running 30 insp for shatter cleanse is bad imo. IP, IC and -30% recharge on shatters is just too good if your main focus is shatter. Like shimmerless said, just focus on avoiding the condi bombs and think about running MoR or Null (yay boon strip) if you feel you really need it.

elite specs ruined pvp.

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Posted by: Iavra.8510

Iavra.8510

- Condi Remove on Torch
- Arcane Thievery

is what i’ve been running for months now and it’s doing good enough. Well…except vs Spite ofc.

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Posted by: Raunchy.6891

Raunchy.6891

Running 30 insp for shatter cleanse is bad imo. IP, IC and -30% recharge on shatters is just too good if your main focus is shatter. Like shimmerless said, just focus on avoiding the condi bombs and think about running MoR or Null (yay boon strip) if you feel you really need it.

If you’re running solo it’s bad, but in a small group it’s not as bad as you think. You have to time your shatters better, yes but you still do decent damage with the right gear. And the utility you bring to fights with a shatter Inspiration build helps quite a lot, especially with unorganized randoms.

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Posted by: Curunen.8729

Curunen.8729

MoR is my favourite because it’s instant and don’t need a target.

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Posted by: Ralkuth.1456

Ralkuth.1456

If you run the default 20/20/0/0/30 GS/Sword + Focus spec its better not to get hit. Don’t fight on a point with a Longbow Condi Warrior (need some range to dodge Pin Down), or an Engi. Zap with GS, go in, burst, get out.

Bottom line is really, don’t get hit at all xD stay in high/hard to reach places until you need to melee for whatever reason.

Heal early and protect with pull/daze/distort to keep poison off. If you do have poison on but you’re in a relatively safe spot, heal early (like ~13-14k hp early) and roll to get more clones for healing.

Use resets. No condi on ~6 seconds to reset health (out of combat).

Use Blurred Frenzy/CC/Distort to get into a portal and reset (might wanna save that for teammate, but solo que less so, doesn’t even matter because no one trusts your portals :/).

Walk in opposite direction after stealth to juke and not get hit…

You can run PU condi with torch CD trait, but you still need to dodge and evade around condi’s with 20/20/30/0/0. If you go deep into inspiration you’re kinda half tanky and half condi which is a bit awkward, because you can get killed by everything (in sPvP). PU is good vs thieves because you have a lot of on-demand stealth to play with, and you’re less likely to get backstabbed when you can sometimes just outstealth him.

Shatter Mesmer takes way too much concentration to play well. I think I’m going to play Banner Warrior and afk for coffee breaks and only sit down to press dodge and F1 randomly.

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Posted by: The Primary.6371

The Primary.6371

Hai everyone!

With the ready up today we found that lyssa has been nerfed to removing up to 5 condis on a 45 sec cool down.

In tpvp I regularly have more than 5 condis on me if I get into a bad spot. So with that in mind, what do yall think will be the best way to remove condis while still running shatter? I am a little worried seeing as perplexity is being added, along with alot of other skills being tacked on with condis.

Any Thoughts?

Mantra of resolve and using torch 4 to stealth and then recast mantra after usage once CD is up. If only null field and arcane thievery were practical for a second or third option then I would advise but….nope.