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Posted by: Darkheller.6437

Darkheller.6437

These are my OWN builds createds for me, these builds are useless for tournament but funny for use on WvW (solo) or Duels with friends or s/d thieves lamers

Conditions:

http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=-NFk3SJKWPVz097ZV-71;9;4JT99-48-1984;03;3TwW6U;1fgm9fgm92VT

Conditions 2 (Don’t use 3 of staff, because that phantasm is useless with rabid amulet):

http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=-NZ-3SJKWPVz097cW-71;9;5OJ9E;119-49-3;04;0TwW6U;1fgm9fgm92Vt

Conditions with mantra heal:

http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=-NFk3SJK_UVz097cW-71;9;49T9J-4;019A4;039;2TwW6U;1fgm9fgm92Vd

Phantasm with mantra heal, called: Hodor’s Build:

http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=-NFRg-JK_UVz0R7cW-71;9;5T-OE;118A;139-2;0SwG6U;1k2Ewk2Ew8Rb

Immortal Mesmer:

http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=-NFRZ-JK_UVz0R7cW-71;9;5TJJ;218A39-39;2XwW7U;1TsW6TsW63NZ

This post is constantly updated with more trolls builds for PvE or for duels, and remember guys, ONLY USE THIS BUILD FOR TOURNAMENT:

http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=-NZ-g-JKWPVz097JV-71;9;4JJ;0T16-09;526ATwl3L;1jzyvjzyv5BK

Have fun!!

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Posted by: Kaiyanwan.8521

Kaiyanwan.8521

Why would you use any of these in PvE?

I know there is this slightly elitist talking that anything works in PvE, but hey, why make your life as mesmer even harder than it is?

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Posted by: Darkheller.6437

Darkheller.6437

Why would you use any of these in PvE?

I know there is this slightly elitist talking that anything works in PvE, but hey, why make your life as mesmer even harder than it is?

Sure, really these are builds for do pvp, duels or hot join, but are uselefull too for PvE, admittedly you ve reason, i changed the post’s tittle

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Posted by: Miku Lawrence.6329

Miku Lawrence.6329

Why would you use any of these in PvE?

I know there is this slightly elitist talking that anything works in PvE, but hey, why make your life as mesmer even harder than it is?

He meant WWW, and edited it just now.
+ PvE is not dungeons, I use shatter in PvE too.

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Posted by: Darkheller.6437

Darkheller.6437

Why would you use any of these in PvE?

I know there is this slightly elitist talking that anything works in PvE, but hey, why make your life as mesmer even harder than it is?

He meant WWW, and edited it just now.
+ PvE is not dungeons, I use shatter in PvE too.

yeah, i use shatter too with torch for wvw or gs/s-f on dungeons, but i didnt create that build and therefore i coudln’t put the shater mesmer in the post xD

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Posted by: Fay.2357

Fay.2357

Why would you use any of these in PvE?

I know there is this slightly elitist talking that anything works in PvE, but hey, why make your life as mesmer even harder than it is?

He meant WWW, and edited it just now.
+ PvE is not dungeons, I use shatter in PvE too.

yeah, i use shatter too with torch for wvw or gs/s-f on dungeons, but i didnt create that build and therefore i coudln’t put the shater mesmer in the post xD

Yeah…don’t run shatter in dungeons. Mesmers are already only questionably worth bringing in most dungeons. Shatter Mesmer leaves no question, I’d kick on sight.

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Posted by: Coulter.2315

Coulter.2315

Dark why are you telling people about these builds xD I don’t want more horrible stuff clogging up Angz!!!

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Posted by: Darkheller.6437

Darkheller.6437

Dark why are you telling people about these builds xD I don’t want more horrible stuff clogging up Angz!!!

hahahahhahahhhahahahahaha i am bad people really :P Angz full with phantams mesmers))

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Posted by: Wyrden.4713

Wyrden.4713

screw u, all dem condi mesmers in angz arena now…

just my ytb channel

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Posted by: Darkheller.6437

Darkheller.6437

screw u, all dem condi mesmers in angz arena now…

i preferer see a condi mesmer that a thief s/d really… haha

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Posted by: EnderzShadow.2506

EnderzShadow.2506

No actual commentary on the builds he listed?

Shadowbane DarkAges Of Camelot WoW AION WarHammer GuildWars2

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Posted by: Fay.2357

Fay.2357

No actual commentary on the builds he listed?

I mean, it’s really just a whole bunch of small variations on a general bleed stacking condie build using iDuelists with a touch of clone death. They’re more offensive than PU condition builds and they’ll die an awful lot quicker too. That’s about it. Oh, and one phantasm build and one ‘immortal’ build.

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Posted by: Darkheller.6437

Darkheller.6437

No actual commentary on the builds he listed?

I mean, it’s really just a whole bunch of small variations on a general bleed stacking condie build using iDuelists with a touch of clone death. They’re more offensive than PU condition builds and they’ll die an awful lot quicker too. That’s about it. Oh, and one phantasm build and one ‘immortal’ build.

You will not die lot quicker if you get skill… you shouldn’t lose never if you use correctly the builds… if you are a noob… sorry but you ll die lot quicker

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Posted by: Terekhov.3670

Terekhov.3670

pu is forbidden on angz server so you can take 20-10 points and put it somewhere else ::>
but pu is not needed against most classes, cause weakness defensive amullet, confusion is mostly enough. speaking of 1 vs 1

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Posted by: Fay.2357

Fay.2357

pu is forbidden on angz server

While an explanation for why PU isn’t used in these builds, it doesn’t change the facts of what I said. I’m also unsure of how worthwhile making builds specifically for 1 particular dueling server is.

You will not die lot quicker if you get skill… you shouldn’t lose never if you use correctly the builds… if you are a noob… sorry but you ll die lot quicker

That’s very incorrect. While you can certainly do well if you play any build skillfully, you will still die quicker in your builds that have no PU than in similar builds that have PU. Skill is only a factor for how a build plays when only looking at that build. If you take skill as a constant between builds, PU builds will absolutely survive a lot longer than your builds without PU.

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Posted by: Darkheller.6437

Darkheller.6437

PU is for noobs

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Posted by: Veruah.5302

Veruah.5302

PU is for noobs

I give this argument a 10/10. Well said, good sir.

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Posted by: Fay.2357

Fay.2357

PU is for noobs

I give this argument a 10/10. Well said, good sir.

The eloquence of it astounds me.

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Posted by: Wyrden.4713

Wyrden.4713

PU is for noobs

I give this argument a 10/10. Well said, good sir.

tbh , mesmers dont have much left to play with, just shatters and pu i guess, and shatter takes some skill compared to warrior 1 button spam so…

edit: forgot interrupt build, but tbh, its not rly smth i would call viable

just my ytb channel

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Posted by: Veruah.5302

Veruah.5302

(My previous post was sarcasm.)

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Posted by: Syprus Soulslayer.1640

Syprus Soulslayer.1640

PU is for noobs

I give this argument a 10/10. Well said, good sir.

I concur, I use to use PU but got tired of all of the whining and QQing about a trait being responsible for me winning my fights. So I dropped the trait and lowered my armor ( by 100pts ) just to prove a point, and it’s working out quite well. Being able to tell your opponents to kindly go F themselves after they accuse you of using PU is priceless

Fay does bring up a good point though obviously in the hands of a skilled player PU is simply OP and you’ll survive longer. I’m secretly hoping they nerf the trait to bring it back into line with our other traits ( while buffing other areas of course )

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[Evil] Nazarus Soulswag – 80 Mesmer
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Posted by: Miku Lawrence.6329

Miku Lawrence.6329

PU is good. Stop bashing your only decent GM trait (with Persona).

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Posted by: Syprus Soulslayer.1640

Syprus Soulslayer.1640

PU is good. Stop bashing your only decent GM trait (with Persona).

never said it’s not good I’m just upping the difficulty level.

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Posted by: Ross Biddle.2367

Ross Biddle.2367

PU is for noobs

I give this argument a 10/10. Well said, good sir.

Fay does bring up a good point though obviously in the hands of a skilled player PU is simply OP and you’ll survive longer. I’m secretly hoping they nerf the trait to bring it back into line with our other traits ( while buffing other areas of course )

Wait wait wait, so you want them to bring PU in line with our other, under powered, worthless, never worth bothering to take, grandmaster traits? Which is what you just said.

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Posted by: Fay.2357

Fay.2357

PU is for noobs

I give this argument a 10/10. Well said, good sir.

Fay does bring up a good point though obviously in the hands of a skilled player PU is simply OP and you’ll survive longer. I’m secretly hoping they nerf the trait to bring it back into line with our other traits ( while buffing other areas of course )

Wait wait wait, so you want them to bring PU in line with our other, under powered, worthless, never worth bothering to take, grandmaster traits? Which is what you just said.

I can see it now…..

Prismatic Understanding

Reduces the cooldown on stealth-providing skills by 1 second. Mesmer gains a random boon when entering stealth: 3s of retaliation, 3s of regeneration, or 3s of swiftness.

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Posted by: skcamow.3527

skcamow.3527

PU is for noobs

I give this argument a 10/10. Well said, good sir.

Fay does bring up a good point though obviously in the hands of a skilled player PU is simply OP and you’ll survive longer. I’m secretly hoping they nerf the trait to bring it back into line with our other traits ( while buffing other areas of course )

Wait wait wait, so you want them to bring PU in line with our other, under powered, worthless, never worth bothering to take, grandmaster traits? Which is what you just said.

I can see it now…..

Prismatic Understanding

Reduces the cooldown on stealth-providing skills by 1 second. Mesmer gains a random boon when entering stealth: 3s of retaliation, 3s of regeneration, or 3s of swiftness.

OP

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Posted by: Syprus Soulslayer.1640

Syprus Soulslayer.1640

PU is for noobs

I give this argument a 10/10. Well said, good sir.

Fay does bring up a good point though obviously in the hands of a skilled player PU is simply OP and you’ll survive longer. I’m secretly hoping they nerf the trait to bring it back into line with our other traits ( while buffing other areas of course )

Wait wait wait, so you want them to bring PU in line with our other, under powered, worthless, never worth bothering to take, grandmaster traits? Which is what you just said.

I clearly said while buffing other areas, sooo yeah make our other traits more useful. The problem is that when u gain regen you gain protection automatically VIA Illusionary membrane so gaining further protection ( -33% incoming damage ) is kinda OP lets not forget aegis that’s basically a free dodge. It is an amazing trait and extremely useful ANET just need to show us some love in other areas then balance where needed.

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Posted by: Ross Biddle.2367

Ross Biddle.2367

PU is for noobs

I give this argument a 10/10. Well said, good sir.

Fay does bring up a good point though obviously in the hands of a skilled player PU is simply OP and you’ll survive longer. I’m secretly hoping they nerf the trait to bring it back into line with our other traits ( while buffing other areas of course )

Wait wait wait, so you want them to bring PU in line with our other, under powered, worthless, never worth bothering to take, grandmaster traits? Which is what you just said.

I clearly said while buffing other areas, sooo yeah make our other traits more useful. The problem is that when u gain regen you gain protection automatically VIA Illusionary membrane so gaining further protection ( -33% incoming damage ) is kinda OP lets not forget aegis that’s basically a free dodge. It is an amazing trait and extremely useful ANET just need to show us some love in other areas then balance where needed.

So, better yet, leave the trait in tact, leave all those viable builds (still with major drawbacks, let’s be honest here), and increase build viability by improving other traits and grandmaster traits across the board.

Nerfing perfectly good traits and abilities is exactly the reason why mesmer is in the atrocious state its in now. You Sir are horribly wrong in your opinions.