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Posted by: Dietzen.6127

Dietzen.6127

Hey folks

I’ve been noticing a lot lately that when I use decoy or mass invisibility, I will immediately get the revealed debuff. Anyone also experiencing this, and/or might be able to tell me why?
I’m sure it’s not a bug, perhaps I’ve just fired a winds of chaos shot, pressed decoy, only to be revealed once the bolt hit? But I’ve also see it happen when running with s/p and it’s quite frustrating, since prismatic understanding kinda needs me to be in stealth to gain any boons

So, any ideas?

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Posted by: ArmageddonAsh.6430

ArmageddonAsh.6430

Damage caused while in Stealth reveals you. That is why it is best to stop attacking for a few seconds before using it.

I think it is worse with the staff due to it having to travel to the target and hit them. Unlike the greatsword which is pretty much right away.

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Posted by: Pyroatheist.9031

Pyroatheist.9031

Yeah, this is going to be bounces getting you. Each individual WoC bolt exists for a pretty long time as it goes to a target, hits, bounces, hits bounces, hits. That’s a lot of time for you to get revealed with it so you have to be very careful.

Another thing that will unstealth you randomly will be reflects.

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Posted by: Psych.6527

Psych.6527

This is not a bug, the revealed debuff can also be procced from bouncing attacks.

Winds of Chaos and Mirror Blade are big culprits because of their distance and speed of the projectiles(i know WoC is not technically a projectile), even going stealth after the initial hit, if the “projectiles” hit again onto a enemy of a bounce the revealed debuff will proc.

No this has not happened to me on Sword/x(i dont run pistol, rather not derail by stating why), it could be possible that there was still a WoC bolt flying whilst you change to sword/x.

Suggestions, be aware of your projectiles and abilities used before going stealth,

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Posted by: Dietzen.6127

Dietzen.6127

This is not a bug, the revealed debuff can also be procced from bouncing attacks.

Winds of Chaos and Mirror Blade are big culprits because of their distance and speed of the projectiles(i know WoC is not technically a projectile), even going stealth after the initial hit, if the “projectiles” hit again onto a enemy of a bounce the revealed debuff will proc.

No this has not happened to me on Sword/x(i dont run pistol, rather not derail by stating why), it could be possible that there was still a WoC bolt flying whilst you change to sword/x.

Suggestions, be aware of your projectiles and abilities used before going stealth,

Aye, as I also mentioned in the OP, I don’t believe it to be a bug, and I can hear that my suspicion has been confirmed that it must be staff bounces, or maybe pistol bounces… It may be best to just stop attacking for a few seconds before going invis.
And this is even though I don’t have the extra bounce trait and I am still being revealed a lot, kitten those winds of chaos orbs move slow!

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Posted by: Pyroatheist.9031

Pyroatheist.9031

This is not a bug, the revealed debuff can also be procced from bouncing attacks.

Winds of Chaos and Mirror Blade are big culprits because of their distance and speed of the projectiles(i know WoC is not technically a projectile), even going stealth after the initial hit, if the “projectiles” hit again onto a enemy of a bounce the revealed debuff will proc.

No this has not happened to me on Sword/x(i dont run pistol, rather not derail by stating why), it could be possible that there was still a WoC bolt flying whilst you change to sword/x.

Suggestions, be aware of your projectiles and abilities used before going stealth,

Aye, as I also mentioned in the OP, I don’t believe it to be a bug, and I can hear that my suspicion has been confirmed that it must be staff bounces, or maybe pistol bounces… It may be best to just stop attacking for a few seconds before going invis.
And this is even though I don’t have the extra bounce trait and I am still being revealed a lot, kitten those winds of chaos orbs move slow!

Another option…do you have an on-swap sigil?

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Posted by: Dietzen.6127

Dietzen.6127

This is not a bug, the revealed debuff can also be procced from bouncing attacks.

Winds of Chaos and Mirror Blade are big culprits because of their distance and speed of the projectiles(i know WoC is not technically a projectile), even going stealth after the initial hit, if the “projectiles” hit again onto a enemy of a bounce the revealed debuff will proc.

No this has not happened to me on Sword/x(i dont run pistol, rather not derail by stating why), it could be possible that there was still a WoC bolt flying whilst you change to sword/x.

Suggestions, be aware of your projectiles and abilities used before going stealth,

Aye, as I also mentioned in the OP, I don’t believe it to be a bug, and I can hear that my suspicion has been confirmed that it must be staff bounces, or maybe pistol bounces… It may be best to just stop attacking for a few seconds before going invis.
And this is even though I don’t have the extra bounce trait and I am still being revealed a lot, kitten those winds of chaos orbs move slow!

Another option…do you have an on-swap sigil?

Doom and battle, so that shouldn’t have any influence

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Posted by: Chaos.3579

Chaos.3579

The most common situation that causes this is when you initiate a shatter then stealth. Shatter hits them and you out of stealth. Any other explanation?

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Posted by: Reckless.6325

Reckless.6325

On a slightly unrelated note, decoy can be used while the revealed debuff is active. So if you happen to be dying because your mass invis/torch4/veil ended up with a reveal, you can still stealth with decoy. Same goes for the desperate decoy trait.

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Posted by: Knote.2904

Knote.2904

The most common situation that causes this is when you initiate a shatter then stealth. Shatter hits them and you out of stealth. Any other explanation?

Any sort of direct dmg done by you breaks your stealth.

If staff auto or GS bounce projectile is still out there bouncing around it will do direct dmg to targets.

Chaos Storm also does direct dmg per pulse and that will pull you out of stealth if it hits anyone.

Shatter dmg comes from YOU not your clones, where as phantasm/clone attacks are based on the illusion. Thus shatter dmg will do direct dmg (from you) and pull you out.