Guild Wars 2

Just wondering if I’m doing something wrong while in downed state. Everyone says that we have amazing abilities …but I’m not really seeing it. I get one pass out of being stomped, and then after that say bye bye. Here’s a few things that I’m struggling with.

I’ve noticed that sometimes ALL my abilities are on cooldown, even #2, as soon as I enter downed state. Are the cooldowns from my weapon skills carrying over into downed state?

I also feel really squishy in downed. I’m not glass canon spec’d either. It seems like my health bar in downed state will go from 100 to 0 in about 20 sec without people attacking me. I’m condition/toughness for the most part. I feel like other classes take an eternity to kill if you don’t stomp them. Me, I feel like I get killed in less than 5 sec. I don’t ever have time for the 3 ability to come off cooldown before I get killed.

So I’m just wondering, am I doing something wrong?

The reason your skill 2 is on CD is because you were probably hitting 2 as you died and immediately activated it by accident.

And ‘one free out’ is more than most professions get. The only professions that can reliably avoid all multiple stomps are the Mesmer, Ele, and Thief – and the Thief is counterable by anyone with a teleport skill (which just so happens to be the same three classes). Only a stealth stomp with no one else around will prevent you juking the first stomp.

On top of that, it provides additional damage and a distraction (though it’s not as reliable in PvP)

Here’s another tip. You can still shatter while downed. Any illusions you have up can easily home in on someone trying to spike you because they are standing still. Also, if you’re traited with Illusionary Persona, a well-timed F3 self-shatter can be used as a spike denial. F4 could potentially work as well. If that’s not enough, I believe shatters may be insta-cast when you’re downed. If that’s so, they won’t interrupt self-reviving.

When you consider all that, I’d say Mesmers really do have amazing abilities. I can’t think of any other class that comes close to having that much denial.

Thanks for the tip crossplay!. The 2 being spammed is probably my problem.

BTW @Dastion every class has a pass from the first stomp. Guardians have knockback, Rangers have a daze, Necros have a fear, Engineers have a knockback, Warriors have a knockdown and they can temporarily rally, thieves have a port which has a kittenedly low cooldown. If they port at the last second it is hard for porting classes such as Mez and Ele to be able to react fast enough after locating where the thief ported to, and ele’s have a mistform. …….soooo…mezmers aren’t anything special in that regard.

Mek.2947:

Thanks for the tip crossplay!. The 2 being spammed is probably my problem.

BTW @Dastion every class has a pass from the first stomp. Guardians have knockback, Rangers have a daze, Necros have a fear, Engineers have a knockback, Warriors have a knockdown and they can temporarily rally, thieves have a port which has a kittenedly low cooldown. If they port at the last second it is hard for porting classes such as Mez and Ele to be able to react fast enough after locating where the thief ported to, and ele’s have a mistform. …….soooo…mezmers aren’t anything special in that regard.

If you think we aren’t special when it comes to avoiding stomps then you are vastly underestimating our profession. Most stomp interrupts can be avoided by Stability, a Thief Port can be countered by Blink or Steal (The movement doesn’t interrupt your stomp animation). Mesmers can counter every stomp interrupt except other Mesmers and Eles. Either simply by blinking at thieves or timing Distortion properly.

Furthermore, some profession interrupts are only single target (Warrior, Engineer, Necro) or else limited AoE (Ranger). Only the Mesmer, Ele, Thief, and Guardian can reliably interrupt all stomps on them, and the Guardian’s is weak to Stability/Invuln.

The only thing that reliably prevents a Mesmer getting away is a Stealth Stomping Thief with no other enemies around. No target, deception.

The only professions that can reliably escape me in PvP are Eles, Mesmers, and good thieves. Even then, I usually just start the stomp, Blink away with Phase Retreat so they won’t realize I’m a threat, then blink back to them as it ends.

skill 2 sucks when you need to move out from an aoe, especially in pve. other than that its really strong both defensively and offensively as the clone will cast mind blast as well. our downed state is overall nice, i particularly like the rogue because it can really deal a lot of damage and mesmer is amazing in downed vs downed.
also, i dont think if it would be too powerful for skill 2 being gt.

Eles are op, they can escape from everything using vapor form, and mesmers are screwed when any form of stealth kicks in and no enemy is around we could target. That’s what annoys me about downed state. Other than that, I’m fine.

It’s not down to their survivability that gets the Mesmer downed state its praises.

It’s the the potent offensive capabilities of the mesmer downed state that gives it such reputation.