Guild Wars 2

ANet can you please update this skill already and fix it? its great that it gives us a teleport that can sometimes be extremely helpful in its randomness. I remember reading on Reddit a while back about some mesmer who used deception and teleported up through a bridge above him in PvP which gave him enough time to heal while his opponent was confused about where he had gone. But honestly the randomness of this teleport is killing it. No one uses it to generate the clone since we don’t have any shatters while downed, its only use is its teleport.

But here are the problems with it compared to the other downed skills that teleport players (Thief shadow escape, and Ele vapor form). Those skills can get you far away, far enough away to be out of an AOE field or out of stomp range from where you started. The random teleports of deception doesn’t always do that. I’ve had it happen to me more than a handful of times in PvP where I use deception while the other player is stomping and I move right in front of them, which means I still get stomped on their first attempt. Much more often, especially in PvE, when I get downed inside an AOE and use deception it places me right back in the middle of the same AOE circle.

I don’t really want to control where we are teleported to, I enjoy the random nature of it. But all I’m asking is that the skill guarantees us that we will teleport out of stomp range (ie if they started stomping before you use deception they won’t be able to stomp you without moving closer) and remove us from any AOE field that was there when we went into the downed state. If I am taken down by an AOE attack I don’t see why I am the only class with a teleport skill that can’t guarantee to get me out of the AOE field, it can’t even do it reliably. It would also be nice if it teleported you somewhere that wasn’t covered by any AOE attack when you cast it, but that might be asking too much.

That’s all I want from the skill, I don’t think that’s OP, I don’t think its uncalled for to want this update to the skill. But its random nature is really killing it right now. More often than not when I use it, it doesn’t get me away from danger.

If you use it properly, it doesn’t matter how far it teleports you. It stealths you, and that blocks the stomp. Use it as they are stomping, don’t just mash 2 constantly. It’s arguably even better than the thief skill for blocking stomps, because the thief can be followed with a teleport. The only possible way to block the mesmer from avoiding a stomp is reveal.

This, as with every single complaint thread that comes up about it, is a learn to play issue. Use it properly, and it’s incredibly powerful.

I only complain about it in PvE

NICENIKESHOE.7128:

I only complain about it in PvE

So in PvE…

1. You shouldn’t be going down anyway
2. Teleporting away or using mist form kittenes off your teammates trying to revive you anyway
3. Downed skill 2 is still a great target drop
4. Downed skill 3 is fantastic dps for getting back up

Our downed state is still fantastic in PvE.

All 4 are true, and I haven’t play mesmer in PvE for more than a year. Just want to point out you can still land in mob’s AoE haha

Fay.2357:

If you use it properly, it doesn’t matter how far it teleports you. It stealths you, and that blocks the stomp. Use it as they are stomping, don’t just mash 2 constantly. It’s arguably even better than the thief skill for blocking stomps, because the thief can be followed with a teleport. The only possible way to block the mesmer from avoiding a stomp is reveal.

This, as with every single complaint thread that comes up about it, is a learn to play issue. Use it properly, and it’s incredibly powerful.

Didn’t know the stealth part prevented getting stomped. I usually wait to use it until they are halfway through the animation but have still been stomped before by doing that. Maybe it was a bug though. I still think that it should teleport you outside of any AOE you are in though. Obviously you shouldn’t use it if someone is trying to revive you, but if they are still fighting or off somewhere else you should at least be able to escape AOE with it. Skill 3 is awesome though, I have no problem with it.

As for not getting downed in PvE. Lag, not paying attention, mistakes happen. I disagree with your statement that you shouldn’t be going down ever in PvE.

still every down state skills is useless as even if you stealth after 2 sec you are being stomped unless teammates res you

so why we have down state skills ….

in pvp you hardly see ppl use them rather prefer to bleed out if they are off point
your AA is hardly doing dmg, your healing is interruptable by any dmg so why use it,

so dont use it unless you enemy is really noob. like i was down 1v2 and they constantly stomp the clone and not me …..