Dying before my phantasms are out / Mobility issues.

Dying before my phantasms are out / Mobility issues.

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Posted by: Assyrian.4827

Assyrian.4827

I have some questions for you guys I need help with my mesmer.
This is for WvWvW.
1-My mesmer is dead before I have the 2nd phantasm out. I don’t have glass cannon build I’m lvl 42. I use decoy blinc dodge but my mesmer goes down fast I got killed by a necro in lich form from 2 hits how is that possible.

2-Mobility problem, I like to use the pistol as off hand so I can’t get the speed boost but i feel like a turtle comparing to others the only other way is a trait which is a joke (move faster for each illision).

3-I started using sword/pistol but in a fight against a guardian my sword skills did 0 damage to him/her.

4-How to deal with that our weapons skills need a target to be able to use them if we are chased be a gang in WvW.
thanks for helping.

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Posted by: Mezian.3248

Mezian.3248

to be honest, WvWvW is not the best place to be even ATTEMPTING to play melee, unless you find 1-2 enemies on their own. WvWvW seems to be all about the AoE spam, even though it was not meant to be that way. Lich form got u down? turn it into a moa. too may spellcasters/rangers/ranged thieves/warriors? use your feedback bubble, and watch them take themselves out (it’s pretty funny!). The guardian you fought may have been a lv 80 in full lv 80 exotics, stacking toughness/vitality… this would result in her defence being EXTREMALLY high, and she would take little damage from your attacks. My suggestion? either turn her into a moa and drop her health before she has the chance to pop out, or swap to staff and apply as many conditions as you can (toughness doesn’t effect conditions).

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Posted by: EsLafiel.4517

EsLafiel.4517

to be honest, WvWvW is not the best place to be even ATTEMPTING to play melee, unless you find 1-2 enemies on their own. WvWvW seems to be all about the AoE spam, even though it was not meant to be that way. Lich form got u down? turn it into a moa. too may spellcasters/rangers/ranged thieves/warriors? use your feedback bubble, and watch them take themselves out (it’s pretty funny!). The guardian you fought may have been a lv 80 in full lv 80 exotics, stacking toughness/vitality… this would result in her defence being EXTREMALLY high, and she would take little damage from your attacks. My suggestion? either turn her into a moa and drop her health before she has the chance to pop out, or swap to staff and apply as many conditions as you can (toughness doesn’t effect conditions).

I don’t agree, I play melee in WvW and with a back up GS. Main is Sword/focus, and I can go right into the center of a zerg and get out alive.

Viel/decoy/ portal/illusion of life/def phant and for elite I use Moa.

I switch between these utilities depending on what I am doing.

I put a portal in a safe place, then ram a zerg and people are stupid. So most always aim for me thinking easy kill. I can survive for a good 10 sec sometimes longer and I am good at porting out right before I die, usually have less then 1khp when i get out(also very rarely die). That gives the people on my side that long with out many people attacking them. Also against walls, I can pull massive people off the siege weapons up there and down to the ground. The cripple immb and push them further away until they dead.

I am a control class, so I treat players the same as mobs. I control them. To help out my team, I dont try and kill.

Only time I go for actually fighting, is when I am running around and run into 1 are 2.

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Posted by: Hamz.3784

Hamz.3784

1: I don’t think that IS possible if you aren’t glass cannon. You might not have noticed conditions ticking on you. Maybe there was another person attacking you too? I’m not sure, but I’ve never been two shot by a player. Maybe someone else can help you more on this one.

2: We do lack consistent ways to get swiftness like some of the other classes have. If this REALLY bothers you, you could go Staff (the chaos storm grants swiftness sometimes) and sword/focus. What we don’t have in flat-out swiftness running speed we gain in shennanigans (decoy and blink not only stealth/move you respectively but will break you out of stuns). I consider it a fair trade, but I use focus so this problem doesn’t hit me as hard.

3: Guardians can be pretty tanky. If you don’t have points in the domination trait line this could be hurting your damage a bit from sword attacks. Mix that with him being a tanky Guardian and voila, very low damage. Going up the power and precision trait lines can really help with damage, but you’ll be much more glass cannon-y.

4: The answer to this is that you either need to learn to turn quickly, cast and then dodge roll away or only use the abilities that DON’T require a target (decoy, blink, etc). The second option is much easier and much more reliable, but if you don’t have a way to get swiftness and you have a long run to make they might still catch you.