Guild Wars 2

Instead of an idiotic version of an already existing necromancer elite, how about an elite version of one of our class specific abilities, i.e., an elite mantra. Some people hate mantras, but honestly they are some the best things in game for the technically minded player. A mantra can be activated at any time, during a dodge, during casting something else, whatever. For example, MoD is insanley powerful once you get used to just using it whenever you need to. You can actually get really good at interrupting heals of people who don’t cover them (with stealth or something).

So, what do you guys think would be some good ideas for an elite Mantra? I’d personally love a Mantra that granted a stun, because of the above instant nature it would be imo infinitely more useful than signet of dom. My favorite elite from GW1 was Psychic Instability, which hit them with a huge stun if you interrupted, but did basically nothing if no interrupt. This could be something similar, except maybe instead of being conditional on interrupt, it just combined mantra of pain with a stun, so like an instant damaging stun. Imagine the possibilities for finishing someone who is low. Something like this:

Mantra of Domination: 2 Charges, 15 sec in between charges, 30 sec cd on mantra (or whatever cd’s make it balanced). Damages and stuns your target for X seconds (I’d say 1.5 or even 1 would be really awesome). Deals extra damage on interrupt (a la Halting Strike). Basically combines signet of Dom, mantra of pain, and Halting strike into an awesome elite mantra. Much more mesmery than a big purple lich form.

Any other ideas?

If you’re referring to the leaked elites from a while ago, I’m pretty sure those were confirmed to be fake.

I like your idea of a Mantra Elite, but I’d like something more… chaotic for a Mesmer.

They were?! Wow, what a relief.

First of all, I would realy appreciate it, if finanly mesmer gets an elite which at least has a TYPE.

The Elites of Mesmer mostly are their own “type”.
All of our existing elites cant be altered by traits etc.
Eg. Necro has an elite minion, Ele has an elite summoned weapon, Thief has an elite poison, Warrior has an elite signet and an elite banner etc.

They all can alter their elites with their traits. And the elites perfectly blend into some builds.

As a Mesmer, you pretty much can use any elite with every build (except PU builds which needMass Invis.). Ok, this doesnt sound that bad, however, this roots not in the verstaility of those elites, it rootes in the fact, that there is almost NO synergy with special builds.

OK, getting a little bit more BTT:

I think a big problem of an Elite Mantra might be the way, mantras work.
Being able to use your elite on instant, giving the enemy very few ways to evade it, might be a little bit to strong.
On the other hand, you have to charge it first, which might also be a big minus for the players, as they might easily get interrupted.

Personally, I am also not a fan of “chaotic” stuff. In regards of being unreliable.
I use a skill in order to get a certain effect, not a range of possible effects.
Thats also the reasons I dont like staff, in particular Chaosstorm, that much. Chaosstorm is an awesome skill, but I want to know, when exactly e.g the interrupt appears.

Doesn’t an elite mantra address your concerns regarding type? It’s type is mantra, and it does synergize with different traits, like a few in Dueling and some in Insparation too.

The whole point of mantras is that they are a pain to charge up, but once they are charged they are instant. Just make the effect not so strong that having it be instant is game breaking.

EverythingEnds.4261:

First of all, I would realy appreciate it, if finanly mesmer gets a mantra which al least has a TYPE.

Do you mean an ELITE with a type?

If it should be an elite, I’d like more spectacular effect. Like mantra that launches target/aoe push back around you. or granting invulnerability.

Axelwarrior.9084:

EverythingEnds.4261:

First of all, I would realy appreciate it, if finanly mesmer gets a mantra which al least has a TYPE.

Do you mean an ELITE with a type?

Ty, fixed it.

As I wrote, an Elite Mantra would synergize a lot with traits, but there are the downsides on the other hand.

Just imagine Moa being an instant cast.
I know, you also have to charge the Mantra, however as it is an elite (→ long CD) you wont charge it that often. Which means the time and penalty implemented by this, decreases, while the fact, that you get an “instant elite” is pretty strong.

Mantra of Mantras

It’s a mantra that fully recharges your other mantras. =P

I would love to see the return of Panic or Blackout as an elite in this game. They aren’t mantras specifically, but I think it would be a really cool tool to give Mesmers more of the gw1 lockdown play style. Something like:

Panic
“Target foe and nearby foes become panicked. When a panicked foe uses a skill, all nearby foes are interrupted.”

Duration: 6s
Recast: 180s
Range: 1200
Radius: 360

Blackout
“Mesmer and target foe’s skills are disabled.”

Unblockable
Duration: 5s
Recast: 120s
Range: 130

…of course with durations and recasts balanced depending on how strong these are in gw2 combat as compared to gw1.

so someone is probably going to want to shoot me for this but i’d like to see a elite phantasm that looked like a dragon an idea I came up with a while ago would look something like this

Phantasmal Dragon
.5s cast time
kitten downtime (may need to be longer depending on it’s stats)
range 1,200
on cast flies through target leaving a trail of purple fire that causes a condition in its wake. 15s between uses
uses some kind of projectile attack between main attack maybe staff auto or one of the dragons breath attacks
and finally causes 2s stun in a radius of 240 on death.

Nettle.9025:

I would love to see the return of Panic or Blackout as an elite in this game. They aren’t mantras specifically, but I think it would be a really cool tool to give Mesmers more of the gw1 lockdown play style. Something like:

Panic
“Target foe and nearby foes become panicked. When a panicked foe uses a skill, all nearby foes are interrupted.”

Duration: 6s
Recast: 180s
Range: 1200
Radius: 360

Blackout
“Mesmer and target foe’s skills are disabled.”

Unblockable
Duration: 5s
Recast: 120s
Range: 130

…of course with durations and recasts balanced depending on how strong these are in gw2 combat as compared to gw1.

omg, yes! this is exactly stuff the mesmer in gw2 is lacking. that would help a lot in wvw.
@ op: a mantra…. sry but i really tried mantras for a while and it simply doesnt fit in well with all the cc, thief spamms, and the fast paste the combat is moving. the recharging is hard if u cant dodge or anything.