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Posted by: Xyonon.3987

Xyonon.3987

It’s a great change the mobs won’t get pulled over the center anymore. Sure it’s a nerf for eotm or wvw in general since you can’t throw ppl off cliffs anymore, but for pve I think it’s a great change.

Yet now the mobs won’t get pulled into the center anymore, they get pulled towards the wall itself wich makes stacking impossible. The probably best pull in the game became the worst now…

Is this really working as intended or just a bad bug?! :/ Please tell us ANet! It’s extremly annoying …

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Posted by: Yokajga.2876

Yokajga.2876

I really hope it’s just a bug.
The focus pull is one of the most useful pulling skills in the game, but now it`s kind of wierd.
And yes ….. IT IS ANNOYING!

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Posted by: Loboling.5293

Loboling.5293

I agree, I preferred the old pull mechanic. I found it more interesting and fun.

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Posted by: Curunen.8729

Curunen.8729

What, seriously? You can’t throw people off walls/cliffs anymore? :o

Well that settles it, Shield >>> Focus.

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Posted by: frifox.5283

frifox.5283

I wouldn’t call it broken but rather “challenging”. Just have to aim with the edge, not the center.

It’s actually pretty nice, more predictable than the old version:
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v00arC_XF2w
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hm4kYmBi1Lk

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Posted by: Ross Biddle.2367

Ross Biddle.2367

RIP focus, 2015.

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Posted by: Xyonon.3987

Xyonon.3987

I wouldn’t call it broken but rather “challenging”. Just have to aim with the edge, not the center.

It’s actually pretty nice, more predictable than the old version:
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v00arC_XF2w
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hm4kYmBi1Lk

Thank you.

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Posted by: FJSAMA.2867

FJSAMA.2867

I wouldn’t call it broken but rather “challenging”. Just have to aim with the edge, not the center.

It’s actually pretty nice, more predictable than the old version:
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v00arC_XF2w
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hm4kYmBi1Lk

Is it either edge or specific right/left?

edit: seems both outermosts of curtain have a pull now. I wonder what happens when we try to pull smthg/someone that it is equally distant from both extremes…

(edited by FJSAMA.2867)

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Posted by: Exciton.8942

Exciton.8942

Once again, they updated some skill feature that they believe is cool but actually quite bad in reality.

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Posted by: Fhaeris.9237

Fhaeris.9237

Revert the change plz…

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Posted by: Ross Biddle.2367

Ross Biddle.2367

Revert the change plz…

Keep the change, so long as, when pulling with curtain placed directly on top of someone (thus pulling to both extremes), they’re ripped in two.

:D

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Posted by: Squeezzy.4718

Squeezzy.4718

Revert the change plz…

Keep the change, so long as, when pulling with curtain placed directly on top of someone (thus pulling to both extremes), they’re ripped in two.

:D

this!!!

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Posted by: Saturn.6591

Saturn.6591

^ Didn’t test it myself yet, but to me it still looks like it’s not just the edges that pull, but the entire length of the curtain. Thus, there’s no “two extremes”. And (as frifox demonstrated), if you place the curtain in a 90 degrees angle to what you want to pull, it will get pulled towards the edge… since that’s the point closest to the targets of your pull.

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Posted by: Ross Biddle.2367

Ross Biddle.2367

^ Didn’t test it myself yet, but to me it still looks like it’s not just the edges that pull, but the entire length of the curtain. Thus, there’s no “two extremes”. And (as frifox demonstrated), if you place the curtain in a 90 degrees angle to what you want to pull, it will get pulled towards the edge… since that’s the point closest to the targets of your pull.

So what you’re saying is, it shouldn’t pull them into two, it should pull them into a fine red mist.

I’m ok with that.

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Posted by: Xyonon.3987

Xyonon.3987

A statement from your side ANet? Intended or bug?

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Posted by: Mystic.5934

Mystic.5934

I just can not hate on this change enough.
used to be able to stack enemies, now they just move from one scattered spot to another.
used to be able to throw a player off a cliff, now they just laugh it off.
TC was literally the only reason I refused to give us focus for better dps. currently only not changing because I hope they fix it.

I do like the idea of pulling toward the curtain instead of the middle of it, just not in practice. as a good start, it should at least be able to pull past the curtain

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Posted by: XeonJab.7529

XeonJab.7529

Yeah. This needs to be reverted or something, when I tried to pull the mobs at the end of the cliffside fractal….. Nope.

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Posted by: Carighan.6758

Carighan.6758

Actually, the new behavior is much more intuitive IMO. It’s just less useful.

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Posted by: Urosh Uchiha.9732

Urosh Uchiha.9732

Regardless of the uses this now has I still prefer the old one.
So yeah… already switched to shield

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Posted by: Mystic.5934

Mystic.5934

Actually, the new behavior is much more intuitive IMO. It’s just less useful.

well, in terms of name, I would say it shouldn’t pull at all, it should apply 10s of slow to all nearby enemies.

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Posted by: Mindfire.1425

Mindfire.1425

Just use your F5 and place two veils at 90degrees to each other :-D

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Posted by: Xyonon.3987

Xyonon.3987

I guess since this is a focus skill issue … again … ANet will take about 6 months to “fix” it :/

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Posted by: Crossplay.2067

Crossplay.2067

Tried focus pull on the bombs at the Tarir City meta event. The distance is so laughably small that it’s more effective to use Phantasmal Wave then build alacrity to do it again.

With all the nerfs to focus’ pull, Into the Void is now completely useless. I seriously can’t think of any reason to use it.

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Posted by: Step.1285

Step.1285

Please ArenaNet, revert this change. It gives me no reason to use the focus now, beyond reflects. What used to be my go-to PvE weapon is now something I’ll only use for one very specific purpose. I thought the functionality was perfect before. It was a little unreliable till you gott used to it, but I used to take pride in being able to figure out the best point to place my curtain to stack mobs together rather than scatter them further, as I’m sure many other mesmers did.

If this was the curtain’s intended functionality, then I guess I can’t argue with it, but I’d at least like a statement from the dev team on it. Just someone saying SOMETHING about what drove them to change the pull, and if they’re going to be making any more changes to it. Right now I feel entirely in the dark.

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Posted by: XeonJab.7529

XeonJab.7529

Just don’t know why they would change the pull when there was nothing wrong with it in the first place. This is just a flat out nerf stated in different words.

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Posted by: Curunen.8729

Curunen.8729

Between RI competing with WF in the Inspiration traitline, along with untraited projectile destruction being buggy, and now not being able to pull people off terrain, I’m leaving my Focus in the bank.

It went from the best offhand a few years back to now arguably one of our weakest offhands.

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Posted by: Fhaeris.9237

Fhaeris.9237

Just don’t know why they would change the pull when there was nothing wrong with it in the first place. This is just a flat out nerf stated in different words.

My bet is they kittened it up unintentionally when they increased its refectable area.
Let’s hope it won’t take them 6+ months again.
If it’s intended… meh.

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Posted by: Xyonon.3987

Xyonon.3987

Still no news about curtain … I think we just have to accept our fate now

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Posted by: Molch.2078

Molch.2078

Oh, please change something about this…

It’s just annoying.

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Posted by: Gav.1425

Gav.1425

The new pull is so terrible. Please fix! Focus is still relevant!

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Posted by: Xyonon.3987

Xyonon.3987

Btw I also noticed it pulls less now, sometimes not even to the curtain itself. I think it may have something to do with the increase in heigth so it tries to pull mobs into the air wich doesn’t work. But Maybe that’s just me and I’m going nutz x.x

Anyway, please revert the focus changes …

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Posted by: FJSAMA.2867

FJSAMA.2867

#revertfocuspull pretty pls? Cant event troll my party and shuffle all the mobs…

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Posted by: Fiennis.4387

Fiennis.4387

Okay, so I’m not the only one. I just made a thread about this issue till I got forwarded here. Hopefully ArenaNet will look into this. It’d be so awesome if they got it right and if not then the old functionality at the least.

I also noticed it pulls less now, sometimes not even to the curtain itself.

I felt like the pull distance was shorter too but wasn’t positive.

If they do reverse the functionaily, I really really really hope they keep the height of the curtain. It makes it reflect SO much more consistently.

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Posted by: Xyonon.3987

Xyonon.3987

So this stays like it is or what? :/ I’d really appreciate some work here ^^

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Posted by: XeonJab.7529

XeonJab.7529

Keep posting until Senpai notices us c:

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Posted by: BlaqueFyre.5678

BlaqueFyre.5678

They released patch notes, the pull will pull into the center not the closest edge of the wall

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Posted by: Xyonon.3987

Xyonon.3987

Into the Void: This skill now pulls foes to the center of the wall rather than to the nearest point on the wall.

SENPAI DID NOTICE US!!

Thank you, the pull is amazing! Thank you thank you thaaaaank you!!!!!

:)))

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Posted by: XeonJab.7529

XeonJab.7529

Into the Void: This skill now pulls foes to the center of the wall rather than to the nearest point on the wall.

SENPAI DID NOTICE US!!

Thank you, the pull is amazing! Thank you thank you thaaaaank you!!!!!

:)))

;_; the dream is real, THANKS SENPAI

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Posted by: Fhaeris.9237

Fhaeris.9237

Thank you Anet.

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Posted by: DaShi.1368

DaShi.1368

Thank you Anet!

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Posted by: Stand The Wall.6987

Stand The Wall.6987

Nice, yeah I just read the patch notes. Pretty awesome.

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Posted by: Ven Zehn.6573

Ven Zehn.6573

Seems to pull so much better now too, like, mobs seem to actually move, though I’ve only tested on flat surfaces so far. Overall, works better than before imo, though I will miss pulling things past the line lol.